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    Posted: 08 Jan 2018 at 00:59
US President has carved himself a niche in the history of US politics-and it began on DAY 1.

At the time of writing this post, he is beleagured by the publication of a book entitled "Fire and Fury", written by Michael Wolff. The main theme of the book to receive a lot of publicity is the claim that Trump is both politically unaware of what's going on around him, and it also casts doubt on his mental capacity and fitness to be Presidnt of the United States.

Trump started on Inauguration Day, claiming that attendance by the public at his inauguration exceeded that of his predecessor, Barak Obama. It clearly didn't, and the media jumped on the fact.

It became quickly evident that this man was not to be what the American public expected, when he continued his Twitter barage on oponents into his presidency; his attacks on the media.

Basically, every day he's tweeted some factoid or another, which, without much scrutiny, was revealed to be either a blatant lie or an ill founded perception of the truth. He regularly takes credit for things which are not of his doing-and provably so.

There is now a broad based impression in the electorate that perhaps he is in fact suffering from a mental illness, such as the early stages of Alzheimers Disease. Statements by the man himself that
Quote " I think that would qualify as not smart, but genius … and a very stable genius at that.”
are rediculous.

Internationally, old allies are watching closely, trying to work out just what Trump will do or say next, and what he really means by what he says. It's been said quite a few times that the US brand has been/is being eroded, in almost every sense, and that the US is perched precariously on the title of Leaders of the Free World.

The Whitehouse's Sarah Huckabee Sanders is Trumps public apologist, trying in vain to explain away his almost dailey gaffes. Only the most loyal employees support himpublicly, as he also loses the confidence of his own party members.

He is, without doubt the most contraversial US President in living memory.


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Edited by toyomotor - 08 Jan 2018 at 01:00
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All of that is true, but Trump has been a public figure for many years, and he is the same as he's always been, nothing about him has changed, except that now he's the President. One should never underestimate the gullibility, naivete, and herd-mentality of the American public. Trump is taking full advantage of the public forum that his position provides, and is putting on  an entertaining performance for them.

Never mond that his campaign pledge to rescind Obamacare and replace it with something better now seems to have disappeared. Or that the gigantic tax reduction he'd promised the midddle-class has declined into probably just a few hundred dollars per year, or maybe not even that.  He is playing to the crowd, which is what he's always done.

It shows how frustrated the people are with the conventional political situation, and they have turned to the  someone outside the mainstream  in hope of changing things.
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Hi Windemere-good to hear from you.

I have known of Donald Trump for a few years due to this TV program which, I admit I only watched once.

I agree wih everything you've written, and although the electorate mood swing was away from run-of-the-mill politicians at the time, I was still surprised that Trump was elected. Not that I'm a Clinton fan either. I think there were other worthy candidates who would have done a better job than Trump has done to date.

I'm starting to subscribe to the school of thought that questions his mental accuity, and from the news clips I've seen recently, he reminds me of someone in the early stages of Alzheimers Disease, jumping from thought to thought, seldom finishing sentences, seldon answering direct questions, but rambling about his own greatness instead.

I accept what you say about his efforts at showmanship, and playing to the crowd, but one would have expected a reasonably intelligent person to be able to differentiate between the times and places he does this, and the times for tact and diplomacy. To date,he has displayed neither of the latter. Quite the opposite in fact, his taunting of Kim Jong Un could well of ended in war, at least in the region, if not world wide.

His own people, according to the media, say that he won't listen to their advice. He certainly isn't a hardworking president either, according to the media, watching TV for at least five hours during the working day, tweeting, and playing golf.

As I written prior to this post, Trump has insulted some of the US most trusted and reliable allies, devalued the American brand and denigrated the post of President.

The US Armed Forces, government departments and general business communities have continued to operate with any appearance of normalcy, despite Trump, not because of him.

IMHO, to re-elect Trump at the end of this term would be a national embarrassment and a disgrace to those who elect him.



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Edited by toyomotor - 09 Jan 2018 at 19:12
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I wouldn't worry about it so much if I was you, toyomotor, you are not going to re-elect him.  It won't be a "national" embarrassment for you.  I am worried about things more damaging than just 'embarrassment.'

Now it sounds like Oprah Winfry is thinking about running for President.  I generally feel some good will towards her, but it seems like it would be another example of amateur hour.  Call me old fashioned, but I generally prefer politics to be worked by politicians.
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From https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?hpid=hp_hp-visual-stories-desktop_no-name%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.bc09fbb07296
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote franciscosan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jan 2018 at 20:37
David Brooks said that liberals took Trump literally, but not seriously,
whereas Trump supporters took Trump seriously but not literally.  Of
course some of these Trump supporters are those that argue for a literal
reading of the Bible.  So I don't know how they could insist on one (the 
Bible), but be so free with the other (Trump).  But, hey, consistency is 
the hobgoblin of small minds (Nietzsche).
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Day and day out Trump brings himself to notice with his outrageous Tweets and public comments-all sure to insult or enrage someone.

I admit to having been outraged on a daily basis by his lies, threats and evasion of direct questions, but now I'm tiring of the farce which is the President of the United States of America.

I have no doubt that history will mark him as "unconvential, incompetant, and, eventually irrelevant".

He will have his place in history, and I hope that he becomes history in the very near future.


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