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Some pundits think he is on track for a second term.  From looking at much of the media, it would be hard to believe that, but mainstream media is pretty biased, tells people what media thinks they should hear, and tell people what they believe people (of like mind) want to hear.  The media belief that those voted for him were country bumpkins and rubes of Russian propaganda is terribly insulting.  It assumes that people didn't know what they were doing, giving a giant middle finger to the establishment.  And if the establishment has not learned its lesson, then they may try to repeat the experiment to drive the point home.  Of course, the idea that anyone else could be elected depends on the democrats getting their act together, something that they don't seem to be doing playing identity politics games.
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China is spreading it's financial interests throughout the Pacific and in Africa.

There seems to be a thought that the strategy is to wait until such times as these countries cannot repay the loans to Russia, providing Russia with the opportunity to demand concessions from the countries, namely establishment of Military bases and other infrastructure permitting China to exert more and more power in the particular area.

China is also playing footsy with Russia, joining in joint military exercises.

Consider this alongside the false and outrageous claims in relation to the South China sea, and the militarisation of that area.

The US and it's allies need to take steps to negate the Chinese influence by exerting their own influence in both the Pacific and in the China Sea.

The longer that China is permitted to continue on this course, domination of the sea trade routes will become a fait accompli.
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I would venture to guess that the US and it's allies _are_ taking steps.  Now maybe they need to 'step' it up a notch, but I severely doubt that nothing is being done.

China and Russia have historical rivalries.  I can see them getting along in the short term, or superficially.  But ultimately not long term, or in depth.
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Donald Trump is talking about tearing up the Non-Nuclear Proliferation Treaty with Russia (is that the correct name Franc?)

Mikhail Gorbachev is saying to do so would be a grave error on the part of the US.

Is Trump trying to provoke a war with either Russia or China (or both)?

A union of Russia and China would be the world's worst nightmare.
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Don't know the exact name, but CNN was saying that Obama was considering throwing it out, never got to it.  Russia's actions kind of make it null and void anyway.  I am sure that both Russia and China understand that Trump is full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.  They have got 2 more years of him, or six on the outside.  They can wait it out.

Russia and China are ancestral enemies, ever since Genghis Kahn rode through Moscow.  In the short term they may cooperate on things, but in the long term their interests diverge.  That is why Nixon was so easily able to drive a wedge through "monolithic" communism, separating off China from the Soviet Union.  Communism is a lot less about international socialism, and more about nationalism than most communists like to admit.  see also the differences between Vietnam and China.
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I hear(?) what you say, but both China and Russia have one thing in common, competition with the USA for military and political dominance.

I could foresee a situation where they would combine against the US, and when the dust settles, presuming that they won, settle the differences with each other. The big problem lies at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue-supposedly the most powerful individual in the world knows little about everything or anything and consistently lies to cover his inadequacies. He's alienated many of the US' friends and disturbed international trade. Why people would vote for him defeats me.

In my view, Kim Jong Un, Putin and Xi Jinping are playing for the mug that he is.

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Cobber, tell me, has Guliano become a defacto member of Trumps cabinet. He seems to be having a lot to say for himself about matters which are none of his business, not being an elected member of the government or an appointed Head of Agency.
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Well, the mid-term elections are scheduled for tomorrow. 

Trump seems to have been campaigning mainly in the "red" (republican) states that have supported him in the past, and he seems mainly to be reaching out to his own base of supporters who've supported him in the past, urging them to come out and vote for Republican candidates, and disparaging the Democrats. He seems to be preaching to the choir.  The main thrust of his agenda seems to be opposition to immigration, and especially to the migrant caravans which are slowly marching through Mexico and hoping to cross the border before long. He's called out troops to prevent their crossing.

 The Democrats appear also to be appealing to voters mostly in their own traditional "blue" (democratic) states, urging them to come out and vote, and are hoping to overturn the Republicans' 1-individual majority in the Senate, and 23-individual majority in the House of Representatives. They seem to be labelling Trump as racist, misogynistic, arrogant, and elitist. 

It's been a very partisan campaign, with little or no attempt at unity , coming-together, or reaching out to the other side.  Instead each side is urging on their own supporters, and trying to get them out to vote. Not much mention about the economy or foreign-policy at all. It seems to be mostly social issues that are at the forefront. 

It will be interesting to see how this all turns out. 
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Illegal aliens ("undocumented workers") are an important part of the democratic coalition, especially since you have with them built-in "intersectionality" (more oppressed than thou).  Using the military to block them sounds like a bad idea, unfortunately we will probably find out, the hard way.

I think what is meant by "racist" is that he isn't pandering to minority communities.  What is meant by misogynistic is that he isn't part of the LGBTQ gender identity coalition, but I don't think they do women any good, and I think they definitely mean to emasculate men.

By interesting, if you mean the ancient Chinese curse, "may you live in interesting times." I would tend to agree.  We will see Windermere.
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There is a lot of subtext going on, but if you look at CNN, in their view, everything from the right is sinister (and gauche), and everything from the left is enlightened and altruistic.  The right is more base, but in the terms of petty vices, not a grand conspiracy.  Identity politics on the right is quite marginalized, as it should be (white nationalism), identity politics on the left is Marxism in a whole new suit.  But neo-marxists have traded up, from being for the downtrodden masses, to being for gays and lesbians who generally get paid good money and have disposable incomes.  And being for women, who are a 51% "minority."  It is a new "oppressed minority" class that is college educated, well funded and generally intelligent and filled with grievances.  Much better than dealing with gloomy mind-numbed factory workers who have an elementary education at best.  Ironically, one once went to college to reaffirm one's class, or raise it.  Now, one goes to college to become oppressed and learn of one's oppression (and how to use it).  Isn't a wonderful world these days that can be in the vanguard, and yet have a high paying job, all the correct virtue signals going out, and none of the actual toil?  Donald Trump is actually probably a relief for a lot of people, he doesn't hide his greed, and cloak it under platitudes of benevolence.  I still believe he is horrid, but with the democrats wed to neo-Marxism identity politics, I have no confidence in them coming up with a viable alternative.

Oh, I have no problem with gays and lesbians or anyone else, being paid well, according to market demand.  But they might wake up one day and figure out they have more in common with the more useful elements of society, instead of grievance culture.
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According to media reports, the Democratic Party has won control of Congress, while the Republicans still rule the Senate.

In Australia, like the USA, we have a bi-cameral parliamentary system, and all legislation proposed by the lower house (The House of Assembly) must pass the Senate in order to become law.

In effect, this means if the government (which is formed by the House of Assembly) has legislation blocked by the Senate, it's sent back to be amended etc, or binned. If the Senate is equally composed of both major parties, the cross benchers (minor parties) are asked to support the government in order to have the legislation passed.

One of the major differences in our two systems is that the Prime Minister is the leader of the party which won in the House of Assembly, while your president is not, being elected seperately.

What's Trumps position now? If he asks Congress to pass certain legislation, the Congress may well reject it. Does the Senate have to lawful ability to over-rule Congress in these circumstances?

         
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I believe that legislation can be proposed in either the House or the Senate, but it has to pass both.  The president can veto, but the veto can be overrided by... the House with a ?2/3rds majority?  Of course, confirmations in the Senate were a 2/3rds majority, until the democrats threw that out for political appointees, and the Republicans threw that out for Supreme Court Justices.  So hell if I know what they are doing these days.

One thing that is off the table for now, is impeachment, which is probably a good thing.  I was kinda hoping the democrats would win the house and the Republicans would retain the Senate.  Although that probably means that Pelosi will be House Speaker again.  But being from San Francisco, she is a cash cow for democrats, highly partisan democrats.  The radicals on both sides "justify" each other.  "We" have to exist (and exist shrilly) because "They" exist, they all say (and visa versa).
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Quote Democrat Senator Chuck Schumer has warned "any attorney-general … should not be able to be able to interfere in the Mueller investigation in any way. They should not be able to end it. They should not be able to limit it".
from ABC News (Australia this morning).

It seems to me that sacking Jeff Sessions was the then edge of the wedge towards ending the Mueller probe. If Trump does in fact either hinder Mueller's work by drastically  cutting his budget/staff or if he has the investigation closed down, what will Congress do, do you think it could be moved to act on Trump?

(Sorry, in previous post I accidentally misspoke on the Federal Government chambers, should have been House of Representatives. The House of Assembly is the state lower house.)
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From what I understand, the house of representatives can issue subpoenas, now the White House be able to squash subpoenas, but probably not without reason.  The White House may be able to squash them with "executive privilege" but that cannot apply to everybody.  Trump runs things like a fiefdom, that means his family, his son, his brother-in-law, and his daughter are in the loop, and fair game.  What would he do if they (legitimately) went after his family?  Like I said, it would be legitimate because they are corrupt and up to their eyeballs in family corruption,  they're "advisers" which may be cynical way to put them on the payroll.  But it does make them are fair game.  What would he do if his son in law got jail time.  Would he let him rot in a country club white collar prison, would he try to pardon him? or would he make a deal?  Step down and have all the family shinagins forgiven?
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If Trump, or one of his puppets, were to over-rule a Congressional subpoena, surely that would move Congress to impeach him?
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Emerging evidence proves that Kim Jon Un is not cutting back on nuclear weapons, quite the reverse.

The available satellite evidence, once again, shows Trump to be a liar or that he's been fooled by KJU.

In either case perhaps it's time for Trump to "put up or shut up".
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This is the face most displayed by Trump, truculent, sulky. Unfortunately for the world, that's the person he is.

Just returned from Europe where he was supposed to attend ceremonies to  commemorate the end of WW1, and to honour those who died. Couldn't make it because Marine 1 couldn't fly in the rain and very mild winds. What a load of CRAP!!!

Macron gave him a dig in his speech when he said,
Quote “Patriotism is the exact opposite of nationalism: Nationalism is a betrayal of patriotism.”
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Instead of attending the Paris Peace Summit, he skulked away, back to the US. 

He's neither wanted nor welcome in most of the US' ally countries.
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I don't think it is an exaggeration to say he is very flawed individual.

Do we (US) really want to open the door for if one side looses and they don't like the result, that the looser automatically pushes for impeachment?
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Surely there's a lot more to it than sour grapes!

Trump has committed egregious (that's not a word in common use in Australia, but) crimes. Lying to the people being uppermost, and he's done that thousands of times.

Any attempt by Trump to close down the Mueller investigation should be met with immediate action by Congress and/or the Supreme Court, the latter hopefully not too tainted by Trump's influence.
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Quote "I may be. I may be. I'll have to see how it plays out. But I may very well be willing to shut down the government."
Guess who, as reported by CNN?

Really?????
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I don't know the context, but we've had government shutdowns before, and we'll probably have them again.

As far as subpoenas are concerned, it is a chess game, and your getting excited over what might happen with a single move.  Wait to see how it develops.  Trump may win his 'battle' with Mueller, but go on to loose the 'war.'
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See:- https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-19/us-china-divisions-deepen-at-apec-summit/10509240

Quote Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation is an inter-governmental forum for 21 Pacific Rim member economies that promotes free trade throughout the Asia-Pacific region. Wikipedia 

This is important to Trump/the USA, almost as important as the North Korea conflict.

China's representatives tried to bully the proceedings throughout, and clashed heavily with US reps.

Australia, Indonesia, Viet Nam and others tried to get the two parties to compromise to no avail. At the end of the Summit, it's usual for the host country, in this case Papua New Guinea, to issue a communique at the end of the summit. Because of the Chinese attitude (they wanted to word it their way) this was not done, instead New Guinea issued it's own report.

The US-China military and trade differences are causing a lot of angst and fear in the South Pacific region. Trump is probably correct in saying that the US has paid too much to too many in the past, but this wrangling should be resolved before a shot is fired, and I reckon we're all waiting for that to happen in the South China Sea any day now.


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