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I like physical copies, someday Big Brother will want to count your every key stroke, look over your shoulder to see what media you consume.  Physical copies of books, magazines, movies, etc. make it more difficult for the bastards to try to social engineer everything.  Of course, it adds up to a lot of clutter, but there is a cost to everything.
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The fun is being squeezed out of everything. The tyranny extends to sharks as drones watchdog the shores. No more than a mouthful of tourist for you fish.
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Learn philosophy, they can hear every word and still not understand what the heck you are talking about;)
Americans, in spying, tend to be visual (U-2 planes, satellites), Russians tend to be audial (bugs built into American embassy).  Russians are aggravated about the visual spying, and Americans are aggravated by Russian audial spying, the sense of violation for each one is not proportionate to the damage done.  McLuhan talks about this somewhere.  
Russians tend to be a very philosophical people, going from one extreme (communism) to another ((crony) capitalism of the oligarchs).  This is not necessarily a good characteristic.  However, Russian literary criticism was traditionally a way to get a message past the censors.  One could write ostensibly about Pushkin or Tolstoy and really be talking about something more politically provocative.
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A few days ago there was a story about the NSA spying on the past 3 French presidents. US officially stating that it is not currently targeting Hollande, so not denying past activities. Looks like the French weren't using the Get Smart phone because its not very chic.
Some speculation about this being a leak_from_ Wikileaks;) probably the same source that spilled the news about NSA/Merkel phone taps.

France officially does not recognize Christian Hillaire, Eliette Brunel-Descamps and Jean Marie Chauvet as having made the discovery at Caverne du Pont d'Arc in 1994. Even though the caves are named for Chauvet. France would claim the royalties of the replica created to preserve the original.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/04/10/world/europe/ap-eu-france-prehistoric-paintings.html
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France uses its intelligence service to engage in industrial espionage, spy on foreign companies, for the benefit of their own companies.

I wonder if Herzog gave credit to the finders.  I think that the world probably knows that they found it.  France has some weird hangups on cultural property laws, for example artists have certain rights in preserving the integrity of their work, even after it is sold.  I wonder if those peculiar cultural property laws have any effect on the matter.

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Originally posted by Viewpoint Viewpoint wrote:

Huge amounts have been written about human male behaviour, but I don't think anyone has believed that there are two completely distinct strategies for reproductive success arising at different times in prehistory. First, strategy a: Aggression, bash your opponent senseless and grab the female, extremely ancient, predating mammals. Secondly, strategy b: Brotherhood, team up with your friend to bash your opponent and/or share the female with him, if necessary holding her down, much more recent,dating from advanced primates. Not very politically correct I'll grant you, but it does explain a lot about the behaviour of the human male! Most men seem to be pre-programmed with a mixture of the two. Of course such behaviours are moderated by super-ego based altruism and the degree of female receptiveness, but you have to admit that guys tend to fall predominantly into one group or the other.


Our behaviour is essentially primeval dressed up in cultural ritual. As social animals we compete for the females favours, and even today, women have a strange prediliction toward the most violent criminals simply because they instinctively regard his behaviour and capabilities as superior to others. This is complicated by various factors such as fashion (as I well know, considering how much my local librarians hate my military surplus trousers), and things like wealth, smell, manners, or whatever. Whereas the majority of women see sports cars bascially 'penis extenders', preferring 'fun' vehicles, I did ince get a strong reaction from a lady who spotted me in mine. Not because she liked the car - it was a suprise for her to see me in that context and the car suggested wealth, confidence, aggression, social status, and so forth, which worked for me once. On the other hand, the owner of a replica Ferrari locally still only attracts debate about the veracity of his car and not his pseronal attractiveness.
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Originally posted by franciscosan franciscosan wrote:

I wonder if Herzog gave credit to the finders.


Herzog credits Jean Marie Chauvet in his documentary. The world knows for certain, its like when a sibling assumes ownership of one of your Christmas gifts because you are not in the recommended age group.

Chauvet is a UNESCO world Heritage site since June 2014.
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Originally posted by caldrail caldrail wrote:

As social animals we compete for the females favours, and even today, women have a strange prediliction toward the most violent criminals simply because they instinctively regard his behaviour and capabilities as superior to others. This is complicated by various factors such as fashion (as I well know, considering how much my local librarians hate my military surplus trousers), and things like wealth, smell, manners, or whatever. Whereas the majority of women see sports cars bascially 'penis extenders', preferring 'fun' vehicles,


And have you noticed that men are often attracted to women for whom material possessions are the measure of his value exclusively? Women in the public spotlight are all starting to look alike. With enhanced big lips, breasts, bottoms and no shyness about the fact that they are looking for financial benefits as a trade off for their "look."

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Beauty can be intimidating, and so to make it a matter of an "economic" exchange, makes it less so.
Another answer is to go for less "conventional" beauty, and dare I say it, "personality."  They appreciate the attention more, or at least that is the theory.
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What happens when mating stops being the motivation for attracting a mate? We are looking for.. -what? intimacy? Someone to ritualize our death maybe.
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Some memory loss is by design. Our brains sift through the information we receive, discard a great deal of it uncobnciously, and remember only those aspects deemed significant. As it happens human beings don't have superior brain power in some respects. Our ability to take in information at a glance is quite limited compared to some mammals, and our IQ rating is only available because we have a large brain relative to our body size, thus we're making use of the extra space our anatomy doesn't need (don't get carried away with that old saying "we only use an eighth of our brain". Rubbish. Without that extra space we'd still consider gathering nuts and berries as a serious career choice). Note that patients with brain damage find that quite often the brain re-orders information in the space remaining. Sometimes it manages quite successfully given time, sometimes it doesn't.
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Originally posted by Vanuatu Vanuatu wrote:

What happens when mating stops being the motivation for attracting a mate? We are looking for.. -what? intimacy? Someone to ritualize our death maybe.

company, conversation, both which are a form of intimacy in a wide sense of  the definition.
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Quote Remember the story in the news a few years back about a family who adopted a chimp and then realized they couldn't keep him? They take him to a reserve. On his birthday tee hee, they bring him a cake and take him out of the enclosure.

A rule of thumb is that you don't keep chimps as pets after five years of age. They become very aggressive, very physically powerful, and very alert to social standing which they will always contest if the opportunity arises.


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Can bonobos be socialized to humans?
How endangered are bonobos?


How about Orangutans?  (All I know is, "right turn, Clyde")
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Primates are not domesticated aminals - they have all their wild instincts and will sooner or later act as any other member of their species. Keeping such animals as pets isn't a good idea and most people aren't equipped of skilled to handle them properly.
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True, but its not clear that they will survive in the wild.  What has happened when bonobos have lived with humans?  You can say, "don't do it," but I just want to know if it has been done and what was the result?
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