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    Posted: 05 Sep 2017 at 01:42
From what we read and see on TV news, it appears that Pesident Trump is busy trying to undo some of Barak Obama's legislation. The legislation mainly concerns welfare issues such as Public Health and lately, the entitlement of some illegal migrants to remain in the USA. Whether or not that legislation is/was good, is not for me to say.

Many people have become disillusioned with the man they voted for President, and possibly would now vote against him, if there was to be a Presidential Election in the near future.

My question is this. Having served his term/s as President of the United States, could, for example, Barak Obama run again for the seat of President?

While US Presidents are restricted to two terms in office, a total of eight years, is there anything to prevent an ex President from running again, four or more years after leaving the White House?


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Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

From what we read and see on TV news, it appears that Pesident Trump is busy trying to undo some of Barak Obama's legislation. The legislation mainly concerns welfare issues such as Public Health and lately, the entitlement of some illegal migrants to remain in the USA. Whether or not that legislation is/was good, is not for me to say.

That would be Obama Care or the Affordable Care Act which has been anything but affordable. insurance companies, I mean huge national providers like Aetna and Humana. This is the Atlantic NOT a conservative source.
*The ENTITLEMENT of some ILLEGAL migrants to remain in the USA? 
It's a False Premise. You are talking about the "Dreamers" children of illegals that Obama allowed to remain in US. And you can blame Obama if you think one person deserves all the blame. OK this is from your liberal friends at MSNBC NOT! A Conservative network. Obama left the DREAMers out of an executive action that would have shielded them. He explains why;

“It was a legal constraint on our authority, it was not because we did not care about those parents,” Obama explained to a crowd of about 70 people. “And I know that there are a lot of DREAM Act kids who are concerned that their parents may still not qualify.”

Modeled after a similar measure from 2012 that granted DREAMers work permits and allowed them to temporarily remain in the U.S. – known as the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program – Obama’s latest actions apply to undocumented immigrants who don’t have a criminal record, have lived in the U.S. for at least five years and have an American-born child. The measures mean three years of relief for as many as 5 million undocumented immigrants. But without firm roots in U.S. soil, Obama said the parents of DREAMers were legally left out.


Quote Many people have become disillusioned with the man they voted for President, and possibly would now vote against him, if there was to be a Presidential Election in the near future.

Which Many? Where did you get all this data? If you make claims like this at least show where you heard it or explain how you came to this conclusion. I can't accept everything based on your judgement. *You hate Trump 

Quote My question is this. Having served his term/s as President of the United States, could, for example, Barak Obama run again for the seat of President?
Passed by Congress in 1947, and ratified by the states on February 27, 1951, the Twenty-Second Amendment limits an elected president to two terms in office, a total of eight years. However, it is possible for an individual to serve up to ten years as president. The amendment specifies that if a vice president or other successor takes over for a president—who, for whatever reason, cannot fulfill the term—and serves two years or less of the former president’s term, the new president may serve for two full four-year terms. If more than two years remain of the term when the successor assumes office, the new president may serve only one additional term.

Quote While US Presidents are restricted to two terms in office, a total of eight years, is there anything to prevent an ex President from running again, four or more years after leaving the White House?

Yea there is the 22 Amendment





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The figures from the combined polls shown below show Trump with a 57.8% disapproval rating.



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Here is Rasmussen on a daily basis, look at the trends what is so notable?
Howard Kurtz-media commentator- 
points out that the breakdown is 93% of democrats disapprove
68% of republicans say Trump is drawing the country together. His base never moves from the 40% approval range.
FYI Rasmussen got the election results wrong like all the other poll trackers. Grain of salt. Look at the trends or just keep isolating phrases that further your narrow opinions.

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The latest figures include 29% who Strongly Approve of the way the president is performing and 43% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -14. (see trends).The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 45% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Fifty-three percent (53%) disapprove.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_sep6

Poll says Trump is divisive, but he's got plenty of company (including the media)

Let’s look at recent history. Barack Obama campaigned on changing the tone in Washington, and many supporters thought his election would usher in a new era of racial healing. He failed on both counts.

George W. Bush explicitly ran as “a uniter, not a divider.” But after Iraq and Katrina, he was viewed as a very divisive president.

Bill Clinton promoted the notion of “third way” policies that rejected “the brain-dead politics of both parties.” He wound up getting impeached on a largely party-line vote.

So if four straight presidents have found themselves at the center of a hyperpartisan divide, maybe it’s not entirely their fault.

Both parties, aided by gerrymandered districts, have moved further to the right and left, shrinking the number of moderates in Congress.

The media have become increasingly partisan, as some outlets largely or completely cater to those who agree with their politics.  

Social media have become more polarized as well, as millions of people engage in shouting matches or unfriend each other.



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Quote *You hate Trump

(NOTE: Psychologists say that there is  a vey fine line between "love" and "hate".)

No I don't, I dislike the public persona he projects.

As I've speculated previously, I think perhaps you're too close to the woods to see the trees. He's lost popularity, if in fact he had it in the first place.

In discussing matters like this, it's difficult to determine the actual truth because of non-compulsory voting in the US.

I'm not sure whether President Trump is divisive or not. It seems that he is erratic and is of the belief that he has the power to do and say what ever he likes, but Congress is proving him wrong.

As to the media, well, it's all about money.




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Donald Trump is divisive, just probably not as much as his opponents and the media portray.  He never had popularity, if you mean the majority by that, but most of the rural areas are away from the media centers, and well, he does still enjoys fervid support there.  Rural America tends to be aware of all the faults that urban America has; crime, homelessness, racial tensions, but at the same time rural America does not have the advantages that urban America has through centralization and concentration of resources; (Universities, Museums, Hospitals, Symphony Orchestras, Zoos, public transportation, welfare programs).  I kind of wonder if tax money in the US tends to flow from the less developed rural and suburban regions, to the more developed urban regions.  New York City is on the front teat of US Government largess.  Maybe that is the swamp that needs most to be drained.
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Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

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Quote *You hate Trump

(NOTE: Psychologists say that there is  a vey fine line between "love" and "hate".)

No I don't, I dislike the public persona he projects.

As I've speculated previously, I think perhaps you're too close to the woods to see the trees. He's lost popularity, if in fact he had it in the first place.

In discussing matters like this, it's difficult to determine the actual truth because of non-compulsory voting in the US.

I'm not sure whether President Trump is divisive or not. It seems that he is erratic and is of the belief that he has the power to do and say what ever he likes, but Congress is proving him wrong.

As to the media, well, it's all about money.


Congress is proving that some of the leadership on both sides have an agenda that does not serve the mandate of the last election, by extension the people are not served. 
Trump is proving that he will get the "Win" and get his legislating done with either side of the aisle.

Does working with the democratic leadership make Trump divisive?

You cant determine the truth bc the BS is flying everywhere.

What do you know of Trump other than his public persona? 
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Quote What do you know of Trump other than his public persona?

Only what I've read and seen on TV over the years, granted I could be wrong, but it's just the opinion of him that I've arrived at.
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Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

Quote What do you know of Trump other than his public persona?

Only what I've read and seen on TV over the years, granted I could be wrong, but it's just the opinion of him that I've arrived at.
Trump's not an ideologue or a party hack he wants the tax cuts and the wall. He is forcing congress to deal with DACA.
Obama made a populist move, Trump is effectively managing DACA. By forcing the congress to work after all their high praise for Obama and the DREAMers,  Trump is acting in a responsible way.
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