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    Posted: 19 Jun 2009 at 21:05

Hi to all who frequent the China forum……

 

…I am looking for some help in tracking down some information on a certain Mr Wang Chen who was Chinese ‘Vice-Premier’ around 1978…the problem I have is that no matter how I look up the name, I get a variety of sources but I cannot find anything specific at all…most of the information I get does not correspond with the Wang Chen that I have on record as visiting British Prime Minister James Callaghan on the 16th November 1978….even the primary sources I have from the Foreign and Commonwealth Office during the late 1970’s do not give a clear picture… Confused..

 

…I have some material relating to a ‘Wang Xillian’ which states that he was re-elected to the politburo in 1973, gained leadership of the Beijing Military Region command in January 1974, more importantly Xillian was named Vice Premier in the mid-1970s, a title he retained until his downfall in 1980….

 

….perhaps this Xillian/Chen is the same person?...I do not know??…it might be possible that the names have been slightly confused given the time period they come from…can anybody clear up whether the two are the same, or does someone know where there is material relating to Wang Chen…? I would be very grateful for any guidance and help in this matter….

 

…thanks for your time…

 

…All the best….AoO…

 



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It should be Wang Zhen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wang_Zhen
 
He was a Vice-premier in the same time period as Wang Xilian.
 
Wade-Giles for Pinyin "Zhen" is "Chen" so this must be the source of confusion.


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Originally posted by Sarmat Sarmat wrote:

It should be Wang Zhen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wang_Zhen
 
He was a Vice-premier in the same time period as Wang Xilian.
 
Wade-Giles for Pinyin "Zhen" is "Chen" so this must be the source of confusion.
 
...thank you very much Sarmat...i think you are correct...in the sources i am looking at the Wade Giles system is used a number of times for other names which are familiar to me, but lesser known (by me) Chinese polictical figures have proved troublesome.... so that might account for the confusion....
 
..thanks again....i will check out Wang Zhen again in the places where i have looked before...
 
..all the best..AoO...


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Originally posted by douglasfrankfort douglasfrankfort wrote:

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..i am afraid not DF...i am at the mercy of helpful individuals here on the forum...Sarmat did give me some pronunciation guidance on an earlier thread regarding Wade-Giles, Pinyin etc....but thanks anyway for your info....much appreciated...
 
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hi, i am a Chinese guy, and about your question, he must be Wang(family name) Zhen(given name), he is a well-known Vice- premier in China. and i got the information about his visit of English in November 1978.
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Originally posted by cfdghbbster cfdghbbster wrote:

hi, i am a Chinese guy, and about your question, he must be Wang(family name) Zhen(given name), he is a well-known Vice- premier in China. and i got the information about his visit of English in November 1978.

..thank your very much for your reply, I appreciate your help and information….indeed, since I have been pointed in the right direction, I have managed to find out some more useful material relating to Zhen, which helps to construct an idea of the man when he was in diplomatic talks with the British Government during 1978…..everyone’s advice has been most helpful….thank you all…

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Ahh I remember Wang Zhen. He gave my employers a few more luxuries back. He wasn't a very happy man though, very quiet around my employers.
在財富的害處,而是一件好事永遠不持續。我在和平中仅居住在新的風下。 Wei Jia Hong No harm in wealth, but a good thing doesn't last forever. I live only among peace under
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Originally posted by Lao Tse Lao Tse wrote:

Ahh I remember Wang Zhen. He gave my employers a few more luxuries back. He wasn't a very happy man though, very quiet around my employers.
 
 
..Hi......thanks for your reply to my threadThumbs Up....since i posted the initial enquiry i have managed to find out a great deal more about Wang, and all has been very useful to my research...
 
..thanks again...AoO...


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I know wang chung
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The 80s song or the person?
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I think he is referring to the song.
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Ahh I see!LOL
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Great! Now i got the song in my head.

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Oh how great! Another song in my head! LOL
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