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    Posted: 09 Aug 2017 at 10:25
North Korean Premier, Kim Jong Un continues his warlike stance against the west with threats and more rocket launches.

His latest threat to launch a missile against Guam, a US Territory, has US President Donald Trump threatening 

One can never be sure of Trump's intentions. He may well order a "Shock and Awe" style attack on North Korea, but if he does, who knows what the response from China and Russia will be.

Some US correspondents are suggesting that war is imminent, within the next six months or so.


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I'm old enough to have seen this North Korea dog and pony show repeat 6 or 7 times.

It gets tedious after about the fourth repetition.
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Originally posted by Charlie Primero Charlie Primero wrote:

I'm old enough to have seen this North Korea dog and pony show repeat 6 or 7 times.

It gets tedious after about the fourth repetition.

Yes, it sure does, but it would be dangerous if the west started to think it was all just talk. I'm not so sure.


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It's more likely that North Korea and the US will continue posturing and threatening. Neither side will want to lose face in this, neither side can actually afford the war that some are debating. Recent sanctions are making life difficult for Korea but still not impossible. Korea has only the threat of bigger and longer ranged missiles to effectively blackmail the States into recognising them as a nuclear power and thus inviting the Korean Regime to the Big Table. At worst, the US will attempt targeted strikes, long before a general war is threatened - bear in mind that South Korea is a friend of the west and very vulnerable to northern aggression.
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Originally posted by caldrail caldrail wrote:

It's more likely that North Korea and the US will continue posturing and threatening. Neither side will want to lose face in this, neither side can actually afford the war that some are debating. Recent sanctions are making life difficult for Korea but still not impossible. Korea has only the threat of bigger and longer ranged missiles to effectively blackmail the States into recognising them as a nuclear power and thus inviting the Korean Regime to the Big Table. At worst, the US will attempt targeted strikes, long before a general war is threatened - bear in mind that South Korea is a friend of the west and very vulnerable to northern aggression.

Meanwhile, the more sanctions, the more the common people in North Korea suffer, in the same way the Russians did during the Cold War.
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Quote Meanwhile, the more sanctions, the more the common people in North Korea suffer, in the same way the Russians did during the Cold War.
More so than soviet Russia I would have said but then their public suffers under the North Korean regime anyway. But difficult times tend to spawn dissent or pressure to resolve situations which is why sanctions are used in preference  to direct action, seen as not politically correct in an era that looks on gunboat diplomacy with some disapproval (though in fairness, this is usually the stance taken from observers, whilst those engaging in such sabre rattling quite easily defend it)
 
North Korea is threatening America quite openly - the idea is show defiance, like an unruly teenager trying to establish themselves as effective adults - it never actually works like that because adults tend to see such behaviour as boorish or unnecessary and don't respect the errant teenager no matter what violent tantrums he performs to prove himself. North Korea will continue to push their luck - they believe that America will back down and let them in on the Big Table, the whole point of the exercise. It's the 'equalizer' philosophy very familiar to American culture. If both sides have guns, they are equally dangerous, thus both need to arm to feel secure. North Korea is arming itself with nuclear capability and therefore believes it has a right to be equal to the superpowers - and wants that status so it can shove other people around, and in particular, absorb South Korea at the first excuse.
 
America is responding like the sleeping bear it always was. You're threatening us? Seriously? Do you know what big teeth and claws I have? Let me go back to sleep or I'll get angry. Of course angry bears are formidable animals and although the US Navy is proving a little embarrassing right now, the American military is not something you can ignore.
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