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Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

Quote All systems exist as as subsets of larger systems, and what are systems? The first biological creatures differentiated rough/smooth or uniform, nonuniform etc.  That began the creation of multiple systems. Patterns of patterns and systems of patterns. All life is pushing boundaries and those who break boundaries are at least temporarily edging out the competition. Our earth, the biological system, offers us a connection to a unified field of information. You could call it spirit and it would be accurate.

That may well be the case on Earth, but it ain't necessarily so if we assume that other inter-galactic life forms exist.

The evolution of earthly creatures has been tracked, studied and annotated by many recognised scientists, but we won't know about other life forms until one is found by humankind.

I don't know if other intergalactic life forms exist, but I'm not prepared to say that they don't.


Yes and intergalactic suggests at least a location that we can observe bc rules of matter have been understood to such an extent. 

We can't jump out of the system that we operate in unless we are using something other than matter like thought
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Thinking and being are the same.  (Parmenides of Elea)
thinking is being (thinking is is).
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Originally posted by franciscosan franciscosan wrote:

Thinking and being are the same.  (Parmenides of Elea)
thinking is being (thinking is is).

Quote I think, therefore I am.-René Descartes
It's not that I was born in Ireland,
It's the Ireland that was born in me.
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Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

Originally posted by franciscosan franciscosan wrote:

Thinking and being are the same.  (Parmenides of Elea)
thinking is being (thinking is is).

Quote I think, therefore I am.-René Descartes
Oui monsieur. 
All these philosophers got pieces of the puzzles and humans have a grasp on the hidden reality very early on in civilizations IMHO. If we all have access to a collective field, a place that is accessed through desire, prayer or simple meditation then we can seed any reality that we like. The basic processes of evolution(thought experiments) will support successful endeavors in the macro, world, universe or the micro, individuated consciousness. 
Something as over done as a giraffes neck found a niche because of profitability. Bending light to use as cloaking device could be called an evolution in technology and the potential profitability is off the charts. New technologies affect the probability of future events but we don't see the picture fully unless its in our material reality.

What purpose would the intelligent life serve? Are we sending ourselves a message from the future?
I think it very likely that there are other life forms and that we will encounter them before we blow everything up.

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Just in the past few days, Astronomers have received short bursts of radio signals from outer space.

They haven't pinpointed exactly where from yet, not do they know the meaning, but they are not ruling out an alien life form.
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Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

Just in the past few days, Astronomers have received short bursts of radio signals from outer space.

They haven't pinpointed exactly where from yet, not do they know the meaning, but they are not ruling out an alien life form.
Yes the first signal happened a year after CHIME observatory was set up in Canada, not even six months later we have more signals. I am glad to see these developments, I think :)


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Yes, I obviously missed the date when these transmissions were first heard.
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Hawking thought that aliens would be hostile and more advanced than us.  It could be like the Indians meeting the pilgrims, and getting smallpox.
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And we all know how that ended, don't we?
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There is a show on FNX(??) (first nations channel?) called Indians and Aliens.

Cool pictures.  But I see nothing that I can sink my teeth into, and chew.  (nothing substantial).  It would be nice if they actually gave a citation for Black Elk, and would pronounce 'Pleiades' correctly.  But neither of those make or break the report. 
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