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What happened to the Olmecs

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    Posted: 20 Mar 2014 at 04:18
The Olmecs were an early American culture that existed between ~ 1200 and 400 BCE, in the Gulf area of Mexico.
 
One interesting feature of their culture, was the carving of giant stone heads, something similar to those on Easter Island.
 
The Olmecs appear to have been farmers mostly growing corn and vegetables.
 
But they disappeared about 400BCE.
 
Where did they come from?
 
What happened to them?
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Well, the Olmecs were a Mesoamerican people, and its culture converged into the Mayan. 
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Originally posted by pinguin pinguin wrote:

Well, the Olmecs were a Mesoamerican people, and its culture converged into the Mayan. 
So there was a period of co-existence?
 
Where did the Mayans come from?
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Since I last posted, I found this:-
 
 
 and apparently there are differences of opinion among experts about the Mayans evolving from the Olmecs.


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Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

Since I last posted, I found this:-
 
 
 and apparently there are differences of opinion among experts about the Mayans evolving from the Olmecs.


And what is your point? Of course Olmecs weren't Africans! They were Amerindians!! For God sake!
The first bantu that arrived to the Americas was bought by the slave traders in West Africa around 50 years after the Europeans arrived to the Americas. Besides, between 1.000 BC and 1.000 A.D., the development of civilizations like the Maya was a lot more advanced that anything in South Saharan Africa. The rest is pure ignorance of black story tellers.

Now, with respect to a theory about civilization starting in Peru or the Amazons and migrating to the north it is plausible, but there isn't any hard proof as yet to establish the point certainly. What is known is that there were some degree of influence between South, Central, North America and the Caribbean with trade routes along the Pacific coast and the Caribbean.


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Originally posted by pinguin pinguin wrote:

Originally posted by toyomotor toyomotor wrote:

Since I last posted, I found this:-
 
 
 and apparently there are differences of opinion among experts about the Mayans evolving from the Olmecs.


And what is your point? Of course Olmecs weren't Africans! They were Amerindians!! For God sake!
The first bantu that arrived to the Americas was bought by the slave traders in West Africa around 50 years after the Europeans arrived to the Americas. Besides, between 1.000 BC and 1.000 A.D., the development of civilizations like the Maya was a lot more advanced that anything in South Saharan Africa. The rest is pure ignorance of black story tellers.


Toyomotor isn't saying that pinguin and neither is his link. If you read it carefully, what is offered in the link and your opinions on Afro-American contact are the same. A pseudoscience not backed up with physical evidence.
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Panther:  Thanks for your support.
 
Unfortunately, I find that apart from being stubborn when all available evidence indicates that he's wrong, Pinguin is prone to twisting what others post.
 
As Pinguin can't answer the question I put I ask anyone else,
"Where did the Mayans come from?"
 
Who were the first people recorded as living in South America?
 
 And what a load of rubbish this is,"Now, with respect to a theory about civilization starting in Peru or the Amazons and migrating to the north it is plausible, but there isn't any hard proof as yet to establish the point certainly. What is known is that there were some degree of influence between South, Central, North America and the Caribbean with trade routes along the Pacific coast and the Caribbean."
 
Of course there's no proof, it didn't happen.


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 The oldest civilizations known in the Americas did exist in Peru, I'm not sure if that's what you're disagreeing with, or something else? Maybe it did somehow influence the north, is that what you mean by "it didn't happen"? Maybe it didn't, but how can you be so sure?

Anyway, the oldest Mayan cities exists in the south, in Guatemala, not immediately near the Olmec sites. Olmec civilization and Mayan civilization were partially concurrent, but there could be cultural exchange both ways, who knows? 

Maybe there were no unified Olmec culture; it's just an archaeological label, after all.
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