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    Posted: 19 Oct 2014 at 03:43
Don't forget that this is alternative history.

When I was young and attended church every Sunday, as well as having Scripture classes in Primary School, we were taught the main stream thoughts on Jesus' life and that of the disciples. But, never was there any mention of Jesus' brother James the Just, or of any relationship between Jesus and Mary Magdalene.

I know that the latter is still a hot topic and has not really been proven either way, but-what if:

(a)Jesus did have other siblings who carried on his work after he died?

(b)He didn't actually die on the cross, but was removed while comatose, and later recovered?

(c) He did "marry" Mary Magdalene and father children by her?

(d) Mary, in the latter stages of her life, did travel to modern day France where her descendants became members of the Merovingian line?

(e)The St. Clare/Sinclair line are the descendants of the Merovingian line?

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(f)there is today a living descendant of Jesus?

If these factors were to be proven, what then of the Holy Roman Catholic Church and the Christian religion in general?


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There still no proof that Jesus really existed... Let's start from that.
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Originally posted by pinguin pinguin wrote:

There still no proof that Jesus really existed... Let's start from that.



OK, I take your point, but, for the sake of this discussion, let's accept that he did.
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(a)Jesus did have other siblings who carried on his work after he died?
Conspiracy theory includes this, but with more academic sources in mind...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brothers_of_Jesus

(b)He didn't actually die on the cross, but was removed while comatose, and later recovered?
A reasonable explanation of the ressurrection if that event is more than simple religious hype, possibly done by asking the legionary guards to see whether he was dead (Jesus was pierced by a 'lance') because relatives of dead Judaeans would habitually ask for the bodies returned so they could bury them. The Romans generally allowed this.

(c) He did "marry" Mary Magdalene and father children by her?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Magdalene

In which case the rumour that I might be remotely descended from Jesus is true, which is rather annoying considering my distaste for all things christian.

(d) Mary, in the latter stages of her life, did travel to modern day France where her descendants became members of the Merovingian line?
That's a later addition to the mythology. Jesus and Joseph of Arimathea are said to have crossed France and reached southern Britain.

(e)The St. Clare/Sinclair line are the descendants of the Merovingian line?
The Montgomeries are involved too. After two thousand years of poorly documented genetic inheritance and family relationships, establishing any serious inheritance from Jesus himself is never going to convince any serious researcher. But it does keep the less well advised happy, and perhaps even a useful way of keeping them busy and out of the local dole offices, thus saving public funds and allowing these individuals to earn a living peddling their efforts in the marketplace.

(f)there is today a living descendant of Jesus?
According to the data contained in the stories of Jesus' family survival, I'm one of them. Sadly I can't cure blindness, walk on water, or feed thousands from a McDonalds Bargain Bucket, and my father isn't a strange bearded apparition handing out laws and rainy days (though he comes close). Neither am I a christian, which is probably going to ruin my chances of a family get together in the afterlife. Also the government haven't yet collected the death duties for the generations between Jesus and myself, thus I'd rather not get too closely identified with the family thank you.

If these factors were to be proven, what then of the Holy Roman Catholic Church and the Christian religion in general?
It's pooh. Always was. If you want to believe in God and be a practising christian, that's your choice. I wouldn't stop you. However the Romans found christianity a useful means of supporting political unity and also it often provided a canny individual with a tidy living. Fort some, it still does. Tradional worship is alive and well. Please pay as you leave...
http://www.unrv.com/forum/blog/31-caldrails-blog/
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