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    Posted: 26 Jun 2018 at 08:16
Hi gays,

I am new in this forum, I am a beginner history student. First I want to know about what was the first Civilization ever lived I am confused someonw said this one is old and someone said that was the oldest. I have to know with the latest research.

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The worlds oldest "civilisation" is the Australian Aborigine, who have been around for 50K years, and possibly as much as 100,000years.

The Aborigines are still here, and many still live in the traditional "Stone Age" nomadic manner.
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I have come to know that It is Completely depends on what you classify as a civilization. There are many primitive cultures that have emerged since the Neolithic revolution (around 10.000 BC) that could be classified as civilizations, but are simply regarded as "cultures". I'd personally say that a civilization is differentiated from a culture by a clearly defined societal structure and system of governance, and by that definition Sumerian city states constitute the oldest civilization on the planet.

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The Sumerians were not quite like any other people in their origin; they are considered to have been a language isolate (not related to any other), and they have no modern descendants. Their civilization has brought us the cuneiform writing system, the first irrigation systems ever and "The epic of Gilgamesh", which might be the first novel of all time.

Civilizations would come into existence wherever the conditions were right: arable land, a large source of water and flat terrain that is ideal for architecture. For these reasons the oldest civilizations would usually appear around basins of large rivers.

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I think that Sumeria is the best bet.  As far as culture and agriculture is concerned, Sumeria is probably the first clear cut example of a civilization.  One might look at Catal Huyuk or Jericho for something earlier, but that depends on how you define the question.  Does civilization need writing? agriculture? architecture?  What is necessary and what is just a fringe benefit?  I think that a more interesting question than who is the first, is which civilizations originated independently of the others?  Seems like the Mayans and the Incans evolved independently of the Old World.  However, I still find Sumeria (and Babylonia) and Egypt more interesting. 
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Originally posted by ghazanfar.arif ghazanfar.arif wrote:

I have come to know that It is Completely depends on what you classify as a civilization. There are many primitive cultures that have emerged since the Neolithic revolution (around 10.000 BC) that could be classified as civilizations, but are simply regarded as "cultures". I'd personally say that a civilization is differentiated from a culture by a clearly defined societal structure and system of governance, and by that definition Sumerian city states constitute the oldest civilization on the planet.

Click the image to open in full size.

The Sumerians were not quite like any other people in their origin; they are considered to have been a language isolate (not related to any other), and they have no modern descendants. Their civilization has brought us the cuneiform writing system, the first irrigation systems ever and "The epic of Gilgamesh", which might be the first novel of all time.

Civilizations would come into existence wherever the conditions were right: arable land, a large source of water and flat terrain that is ideal for architecture. For these reasons the oldest civilizations would usually appear around basins of large rivers.

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Hopefully you already know some of them. I hope this helped.

Thanks for your post, and I agree with what you say, there is a vast difference between "culture" and "civilisation" and I should have explained in my post that I really meant oldest culture. Even today in Australia, many Aboriginals do not live in what most of us would called a civilised manner. But they're the last of the Stone Age people, and for them to progress from the Stone Age 200 odd years ago to the 21st Century today is still problematic.


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I think "civilization" is not necessarily that "civilized."
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