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    Posted: 05 Aug 2012 at 17:12
Go Team GB  - what a phenomenal haul of medals so far; and what about the first ever female contestants from Saudi?

I was so sceptical about the games being here in the build up, but it has been an amazing event so far.  Going to the Greco-Roman wrestling tomorrow and then again on Friday for some freestyle.
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It's the UK's time to shine, and good luck to them. A well needed reprieve from the doom and gloom of recent years.

Events like this really do bring out some of the best in the world's people.
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We have even won a few events that you couldn't do sitting down.

It would appear though that in sitting down events we are doing better than anyone else, which sounds like it should be a peculiarly British phenomenon.
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Sitting down and posh sports. Just got back from the 60k, 84k and 120k Greco-Roman.  Fantastic contests. 

Go Murray too, made mincemeat of Federer. 
Ben Ainslie deservedly pipped the scheming Dane and Dutch duo to Gold.

I think the success is down to lottery funding bearing fruit after 18 years of awesome investment and also targeted talent spotting for specific sports.  This success can only be good for the national psyche.

Can't believe Oz is only on 1 gold, CX.
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Yes, Zagros, there is some serious soul searching going on at the antipode. For a young country with a short history, Australia tends to place a lot of stock in sporting achievement as opposed to the usual nationalist causes of many other nations.

So even though coming 23rd on the overall medal tally and being ranked very high in silver is a good result for a nation of 22 million people, people here are still taking it badly. It's quite the reversal from the glory days in 2000 when we came 4th only behind USA, China and Russia.

One swim coach (swimming is one area we traditonally blitz our opponents) has even taken to claiming the causes are moral and societal, with the youth of today more subject to distraction and an easier overall existence breeding a generation of less committed athlets:

http://www.news.com.au/sport/london-olympics/australian-swimming-boss-leigh-nugent-blames-easy-life-blamed-for-medal-dive/story-fndpu6dv-1226442766416
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Originally posted by gcle gcle wrote:

We have even won a few events that you couldn't do sitting down.


It would appear though that in sitting down events we are doing better than anyone else, which sounds like it should be a peculiarly British phenomenon.


LOL!
Greatest post ever.
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Can't believe Oz is only on 1 gold, CX.

And 19 silver. Oz, Japan, and until last night, Russia, just can't manage to finish first.
The bogan media is baying for blood.

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Yea but one gold beats silver ad infinitum in the rankings and ranking's what it's all about.

GBR up to 21 golds - best ever with Pendleton narrlowly missing out to the Aussy girl - Hoy is up now for Gold or Silver, if he wins gold he becomes our best ever with 6 gold.

Quote One swim coach (swimming is one area we traditonally blitz our opponents) has even taken to claiming the causes are moral and societal, with the youth of today more subject to distraction and an easier overall existence breeding a generation of less committed athlets:


That's ridiculous.


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Originally posted by Zagros Zagros wrote:


Ben Ainslie deservedly pipped the scheming Dane and Dutch duo to Gold.
 
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You got that wrong - it was Ben who was scheming.
What is so deserving about Bens poor results for 8 races and extreme luck in the last race, which he turned into a matchrace after he surprisingly to himself got a little ahead from the beginning......
 
Overall, he won the competition allright - but he didn't deserve to win at any measure nor did he deserve any respect after the last race where he didn't try to win, but had only one goal - to keep another contestant behind himself.
No matter what you say - it wasn't pretty - and it nearly backfired for him...
 
 
   
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The most interesting thing in this (and previous Olympics) is that ethnic minorities within their own country dominate the medal table. I was looking at the Russian table and nearly half the medal winners were minorities from the Caucasus especially.
 
Anyway it is Bolt whom I am interested in following and he won.
 
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Originally posted by Northman Northman wrote:

Originally posted by Zagros Zagros wrote:


Ben Ainslie deservedly pipped the scheming Dane and Dutch duo to Gold.
 
Hej Zag
You got that wrong - it was Ben who was scheming.
What is so deserving about Bens poor results for 8 races and extreme luck in the last race, which he turned into a matchrace after he surprisingly to himself got a little ahead from the beginning......
 
Overall, he won the competition allright - but he didn't deserve to win at any measure nor did he deserve any respect after the last race where he didn't try to win, but had only one goal - to keep another contestant behind himself.
No matter what you say - it wasn't pretty - and it nearly backfired for him...
 
 


The Dane and Dutch schemed to wrongly accuse him of a fault and make him do a penalty turn because they both saw him as the biggest threat to their ambition - he is by far the best ever at his sport.  He did the turn because if it was disputed it would be 2v1 and he would lose.  But regardless, that pushed him to win that race and ultimately the title.  If they hadn't schemed he wouldn't have pushed the Dane back, which he needed to do to claim gold. but it depends on your point of view.  I believe Ainslie.

What a turn though, from one gold in 2000 to 19 in 2008 and now 22 in 2012.
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Because I like to be equitable and to play with numbers:

 
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Is that for all time?  Any links for these olympics?
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If you go to the top left hand side of the page, it has a drop down option so you can view the results according to each event.

The default displays the current Olympic event's results.
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Originally posted by Zagros Zagros wrote:


The Dane and Dutch schemed to wrongly accuse him of a fault and make him do a penalty turn because they both saw him as the biggest threat to their ambition - he is by far the best ever at his sport.  He did the turn because if it was disputed it would be 2v1 and he would lose.  But regardless, that pushed him to win that race and ultimately the title.  If they hadn't schemed he wouldn't have pushed the Dane back, which he needed to do to claim gold. but it depends on your point of view.  I believe Ainslie.
 
Don't belive him - he isn't telling the whole truth.
The Dane and the Dutch didn't acuse him - they told him he made a fault - but they should have kept their mouths shut.  The nearby jury-boat saw it too, and if he hadn't made the turn, he would have been disqualified.
Instead of thanking them, he smeared them in the press the next day .... 
 
Of course he is a good sailor - but apparently with bad sportsmanship.
 
 
 
 
   
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Originally posted by Al Jassas Al Jassas wrote:

The most interesting thing in this (and previous Olympics) is that ethnic minorities within their own country dominate the medal table. I was looking at the Russian table and nearly half the medal winners were minorities from the Caucasus especially.
 


You probably looked at early stages when most of medalists were wrestlers and weightlifters. Now the table looks very politically correct -- around 70-80 percent are ethnic Russians ;)
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Congrats to London and all Brits!
Rarely have I enjoyed watcing the Olympics as much as this time...
 
Fantastic games, setup, ceremonies - everything was an A+
 
Well done Thumbs Up
 
 
 
 
   
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Might be worth pointing out that in addition to the Olympic performance in less than a month Britain also knocked off the Tour de France (for the first time) and the US PGA tournament (first, second and two equal thirds).  
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It's no secret the host country wins more than it normally does, it's not all of us that can have four countries competing as one country. In any event the hosts did better than their last outing when they won a single gold. I'm glad I taped the opening and closing ceremonies. That way I could fast forward most of it. It reminded me of a junior high effort on the cheap.
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I agree. Sperate Scotish, Welsh and English teams. And Australian should compete as it's original colonies. We have only been one nation 112 years.

UK won 19 gold medals in 2008.
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Buckskins may have been thinking of the last time London hosted the Olympics in 1948. He's still wrong of course since Britain won 3 golds then, not one - in 12th place on medal count which rather puts paid to the idea that host countries always do better. 
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Originally posted by Buckskins Buckskins wrote:

I'm glad I taped the opening and closing ceremonies. That way I could fast forward most of it. It reminded me of a junior high effort on the cheap.
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All time medal count according to wiki.

I noted that the US has an all time medal count for both summer/winter Olympics at 2652 (est.) toot- toot. Big smile




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We might be a small country... 
- but it only takes 620,000 danes to win a medal but it takes 3,000,000 americans...   Big smile toot toot LOL
 
 
   
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Originally posted by Northman Northman wrote:

We might be a small country... 
- but it only takes 620,000 danes to win a medal but it takes 3,000,000 americans...   Big smile toot toot LOL
 
 


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Look at counties like Kazakhstan, population 17.5 million and 7 gold medals. New Zealand, 4 million people and 6 golds. Australians stare at New Zealand in shock. Well done.
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The population of any given country is immaterial. Individual countries don't win a darn thing. The teams and individual athletes do. What about the horses? Gold medals for them also? The total medal count means nothing and is sorely lacking in the Olympic spirit. 

What is relevant are things like how well the women of the world did overall. Athletes accomplishing their goals despite pain and injury. Athletes applauding the winner of an event even although they were participants and did not place. The friendships that developed among athletes and supporters from different countries.


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What's with the Yosamity Sam and "Read em and weep?" then if you were not praising the high US medal count? What are we reading and weeping about?
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As an Australian, I'm going to sit on my favourable per capita medal count and smile Big smile

Seriously though, we didn't do as well compared with previous years. Coming fourth in the world in 2000 was a real treat.
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So, the Olympic legacy for Britain? No whining about cyclists or Somali immigrants for the next 25 years Smile
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