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Thanks.








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My guess, is berberid North African, but that is only a guess, and is based more on you being from Morocco, than it is on your picture.
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Hello.
Why do you need to ask what you could pass as?

Are you on the lamb?
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Ok thanks

this may sound weird but how old do you think i am in this picture. ?

this is a new picture.

on the other hand if am moroccan from oujda am i considered arabid or berberid or mediteranean ?
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Ok never mind folks.

Just some crazy stuff in my head.
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No, its a fair question.  The picture isn't up for some reason, but I seem to remember that you looked in your 30s.  As far as ethnicity I don't know, I am an American (caucasian), and so I can't really make those fine distinctions between ethnicity.  America is a mixing pot, sometimes it boils, sometimes in is cold.  I knew a Russian tailor, and when the Soviet Union collapsed, she became a Ukrainian tailor.  She was Ukrainian all along, but it was much easier to explain that she was Russian, as long as Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union.  You go into a convenience store, and the clerk will explain that they are Persian, they won't say Iranian which of course, is the same thing (sort of).  My point is, even the way some people self-identity in the US can be misleading.  Ronald Reagan was "Scotts (Scotch?) Irish" which means Irish but originally Protestant Scotch to Ireland."  In Pennsylvania, you have the Pennsylvania Dutch, which are not Dutch, but Deutch (Germany) have originally come over during or after the reformation.  I imagine that ethnicity is probably just as complex in Morocco.

Don't mind Vanuatu, she is just cranky.  She has said in the past that she could pass for Arabian, but it is not Middle Eastern, but Portuguese via Brazil in one side of her family.
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If you would like some opinions then you have to share some of the crazy in your head.
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Yes .

it always surprises me why north africans are considered white in the Usa.


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You looked South American too.
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6Thanks at least i look handsome Lolzźź

can you post a country.?




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Not a compliment or an insult. 

You asked for comments and you don't go away or respond to conversation.

I can't post a country. Can you?
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You look Middle eastern with a high ssa input you don't really look berber
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I am curious about your ethnicity dark angel, since you have brought it up.

For me, I am an American mutt.  A mutt is a dog with mixed heritage, they also have a reputation of being smarter than the average dog.  My background, as far as I know, is a mixture of Italian (from whence the name Francisco), English, Irish, Swede, and I don't really know past my great grandparents.  I don't know what it would be like to have a strong sense of heritage or lineage.  There are both advantages and disadvantages to that.  One probably does not have a strong sense of history with such a background, but does have a certain attitude towards the future because of it.

I know that Muslims generally have a negative attitude towards dogs, please let me know if you find it offensive.  I admit that dogs are not necessarily the cleanest animals, but they are loyal and loving.  There is a saying that if you want a friend in Washington DC, get a dog.  The point is, everyone else will be out for themselves (probably no more or less than any important or powerful place).  Traditionally, in America the President has had a (first) dog.  His wife is "the first wife" and his dog is "the first dog."

Socrates was said to be a dog, mistaken for a wolf.

But, I am curious about your background, and how you see the world.  We don't usually have deep traditions here in the majority of Americans.  From what I understand, traditions can help people stand off the troubles of life.
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@tonyscaletta.

trust me am not middle eastern am from morocco a country that is very well known for its berber heritage . at least thats what i read on anthropological boards

 here where i live there is all types of colors.

here in morocco you cant tell if your arab or berber . there is just traditions that tell so. 


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Originally posted by DarkAngelX DarkAngelX wrote:

@tonyscaletta.

trust me am not middle eastern am from morocco a country that is very well known for its berber heritage . at least thats what i read on anthropological boards

 here where i live there is all types of colors.

here in morocco you cant tell if your arab or berber . there is just traditions that tell so. 

I know but you still look different and you clearly have black ancestors Are you from south Morocco ? 
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@tonyscaletta.

my origins are from oujda surroundings . look that up.
the color isnt from my black ancestry . we dont have black people in our lineage be it paternal or maternal.


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Well we all got black ancestors if you go back far enough.  Or at least, I believe that humans spread throughout the world, originally coming out of Africa. Not that I reject Adam and Eve or other creation myths.  To me, there is great wisdom in the old ways.  New ways have a point too, there is a very important question in our world of how one can get along with the other.

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I dont have a problem with being black fortunatly. Its just that am not related to negroid race.
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Originally posted by DarkAngelX DarkAngelX wrote:

I dont have a problem with being black fortunatly. Its just that am not related to negroid race.

I am as white as flour in skin tone.

My DNA test shows that I'm 63.2% Iberian, 15.5% Balkan, 7.5% Irish, Scottish, Welsh, 6.9% Italian and 6.9% African including Moroccan, Algerian, Libyan and Egyptian.

Have you had one of these tests? If not how can you rule anything out?

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Originally posted by Vanuatu Vanuatu wrote:

Originally posted by DarkAngelX DarkAngelX wrote:

I dont have a problem with being black fortunatly. Its just that am not related to negroid race.

I am as white as flour in skin tone.

My DNA test shows that I'm 63.2% Iberian, 15.5% Balkan, 7.5% Irish, Scottish, Welsh, 6.9% Italian and 6.9% African including Moroccan, Algerian, Libyan and Egyptian.

Have you had one of these tests? If not how can you rule anything out?


Why do you think those DNA test are accurate ?

The informations i got are muh more precise.

Is there something better than familie tree?


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Well, you know that people pass themselves off for something they're not.  Sometimes for good reasons, sometimes for bad.  If you were Irish in the 1800s, you might learn "English" English well, and pass yourself off as an English gentleman.  You could get married, and nobody (well, almost nobody) would know, but a few generations of children later, an adult-child out of curiosity might take a DNA test and reveal that someone in the family tree was Irish, not English (as they pretended to be).  A DNA test would probably not tell who, but you, if you were really into genealogy, might be able to figure it out.

Most people when they get a DNA test (such as ancestry.com), find out a lot of what they already knew or suspected.  But, every once in awhile there is a surprise.  There was a girl, (early 20s?) who had a youtube channel and following, who decided to get her DNA test and reveal it on her show.  She was flabbergasted (confused) when her DNA test revealed that she was mainly white.  I am not sure she had any sub-Sahara African in her ancestry.  She thought she was a hip 'Nigerian' princess or something, but the DNA test showed something different.  
A lot of DNA testing companies will also give you access to genealogy records.  They would like you to share with others, correlate your results with genealogy records, and find lost relatives.  My mom had DNA test, but it didn't really tell us anything we did not know.  I would not say that a DNA test is better than a family tree, but it can be used to check and maybe expand a family tree.  A DNA test is not 100% accurate, but only a scientist or a mathematician can figure out the chances of it being wrong.  For example, identical twins might cause a confusion.

Vanuatu, I thought you were a golden skin beauty??

How old are you, angel? (I don't find you that dark), I gave you a guess, now I am going to change that to mid 20s to late 20s.  I would explain why, but your picture is not still up and I am not sure about my memory.
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Am not against a more scientific approach . but without doing a test i can easily trace back my lineage (the obvious one not the very far away) with all the information i got and collected since childhood.

I know what i would expect from a dna test theres no need to do one.

Any ways you are very welcom to my part of the world.


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"Vanuatu, I thought you were a golden skin beauty??"

In the summer, right now I'm pasty.
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I hope i will be welcome to your tiny world.
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How can we welcome you, if we don't know who _you_ are?
But, I am sure over time, we'll get to know you better.
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Originally posted by DarkAngelX DarkAngelX wrote:

I hope i will be welcome to your tiny world.

Yes you are welcome here. It takes time to get used to each other but if you stick around you will probably enjoy yourself.
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If you are muslim, I wonder if you have heard of Maajid Nawaz, he went from being a radical Islamist to being a devout liberal muslim.  I think he is based out of London.  He and Sam Harris had a dialogue called Islam and the Future of Tolerance.

You of course, are welcome here.  I am living with my aged mother in her home, so it is not up to me to offer hospitality.
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Originally posted by franciscosan franciscosan wrote:

If you are muslim, I wonder if you have heard of Maajid Nawaz, he went from being a radical Islamist to being a devout liberal muslim.  I think he is based out of London.  He and Sam Harris had a dialogue called Islam and the Future of Tolerance.

You of course, are welcome here.  I am living with my aged mother in her home, so it is not up to me to offer hospitality.

I dont believe in god at all. 

Are you from england ?
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No, state of Colorado in the U.S.A.  Denver area.

Neils Bohr, the famous physicist, had a friend over and the friend saw above the doorway a horseshoe (with its ends facing up).  The friend said, "do you believe in that (horseshoe gives good luck)?"  To which Bohr said, "no of course not, but you don't need to believe in it for it to work."

Tradition and custom give people a lot of comfort and happiness in life, including in the face of adversity, lots of times belief is another question.  Especially belief in God.

How would you phrase it? would you say that you don't believe in God?  Or would you say that you believe there is not a God?  Are you skeptical about God, or do you feel that you are certain about there not being a God. Personally, I feel that there is not certainty either way, I also believe that God, if he exists, should forgive us mortals a little for wrestling with doubts, since he did not make it obvious.
Just curious what your view is.
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Originally posted by franciscosan franciscosan wrote:

No, state of Colorado in the U.S.A.  Denver area.

Neils Bohr, the famous physicist, had a friend over and the friend saw above the doorway a horseshoe (with its ends facing up).  The friend said, "do you believe in that (horseshoe gives good luck)?"  To which Bohr said, "no of course not, but you don't need to believe in it for it to work."

Tradition and custom give people a lot of comfort and happiness in life, including in the face of adversity, lots of times belief is another question.  Especially belief in God.

How would you phrase it? would you say that you don't believe in God?  Or would you say that you believe there is not a God?  Are you skeptical about God, or do you feel that you are certain about there not being a God. Personally, I feel that there is not certainty either way, I also believe that God, if he exists, should forgive us mortals a little for wrestling with doubts, since he did not make it obvious.
Just curious what your view is.

My view is that god does not exist . And the doubts you have are coming from a specific cause . You just need to dig more.

Me i was having doubts about my mental health and back then  i tought that its was from my lack of fate . But the truth was somewere else.

I finally got a diagnosis afyer 3 years and found the root cause of my problems. I am relativly stable right now . at least i can communicate in a foreign language with ease and confidence . but need to enhance my self more.
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