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Poll Question: Which language can you speak?(Except English)
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5 [7.58%]
5 [7.58%]
2 [3.03%]
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Bulgarian and Russian are my native languages.  And I used to speak Swedish quite well. Now I can use it only when I am exceptionally drunk. Learned Latin at school but even alcohol doesn't help with this one.

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French and basic Polish.
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Dutch, but sluggish from lack of use.
Basic German.

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Turkish and some Hungarian.
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Seriously, what kind of poll is this? I'm able to vote twice for Turkish. So, how could I know if someone spammed 11 votes for German? Thumbs Down

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Because we are cool guys and none of us do such a lame thing, PoH. Thumbs Up
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Can't pick multiple options apparently. I speak French, Spanish, and Tagalog.
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I am native Spanish speaker, and writer in Spanish. I can communicate in English, but I'll never reach perfection, I know. I have also tried (and failed miserable) to learn German, Portuguese, Japanese, French and Chinese... and some Mapudungun (native Mapuche).

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French and German (but not Lëtzebuergesch Unhappy) on a daily basis and the army taught me Russian many years ago but I've hardly ever used it since so it's very rusty.
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I only know 4 other languages other than Emglish because I used them when I was young. I am a hala khan so I know manchu, I lived in Manchukuo as a puppet state so I learned Japanese, in traditional manchu rituals, it is common for there to be mongolian so I know a little mongol, and my native language is Mandarin (but in a more central dialect)
PS: pinguin, what dialect of Chinese did you try to learn?
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Originally posted by Lao Tse Lao Tse wrote:


PS: pinguin, what dialect of Chinese did you try to learn?


I tried to learn Mandarin. I am fascinated with Chinese script. And, although for me is a very difficult task, I manage to learn some of them. I am fascinated when I recognize some of them in Chinese texts. But I am very far from mastering it at all.


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Mandarin is very complicated, many people in China cannot master the entire language. For example, I learned the Art of calligraphy in San Francisco. It is extremely complicated and it takes atleast 20 years to learn your own technique.
在財富的害處,而是一件好事永遠不持續。我在和平中仅居住在新的風下。 Wei Jia Hong No harm in wealth, but a good thing doesn't last forever. I live only among peace under
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Hola Penguino, Korean is much easier. It used to be near as complicated as Mandarin, but not now. A Korean Emperor felt sorry for the people and wrote out a new alphabet.
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American/English. Tex/Mex.   A rough working knowledge of German, Greek, Spanish with the lisp, and some Latin.
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I'm learning Korean, It is a little more simple to me because still several characters are the same as in Chinese, Japanese, and Korean. One problem is their pinyin, and pronounciation, very hard to seperate Japanese from chinese and chinese from Korean.
在財富的害處,而是一件好事永遠不持續。我在和平中仅居住在新的風下。 Wei Jia Hong No harm in wealth, but a good thing doesn't last forever. I live only among peace under
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Lao Tse, Korean is written in Hangul, an alphabet. The old Hanjin/Hanju (?) can still be occasionally seen, and at one time both Korean High School and College graduates had a Chinese character base ranging from several hundred to several thousand characters. According to my work-mate of several years ago, deciphering the meaning of some Korean names was far simpler using the old Chinese characters, because there are no homonyms in the writing system that can confuse meanings. I had seven years experience reading place names in Hangul, but have lost some of it.
 
I was born into an English speaking family, spent some time in Franco-American institutions and neighborhoods, and did my university studies in Spanish and have worked in French and Spanish language required postings. I also passed an Armed Forces competency exam in Dutch (Afrikaans) in 1971, in Portuguese in 1988, and have an intermediate capability in Vietnamese (Southern dialect) and once had a very basic capability in Rhade, a malayo-polynesian language. I took Chinese Mandarin and Arabic night courses for a few months of my life in the 70s, and can at least get around as a tourist in Taiwan, Hong Kong and Shanghai carrying my trusty Lonely Planet so as to practice my phrases before stepping on the bus, etc..  
 
 
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I know every country has a different way of calling it, but it is basically pinyin. When I worked as a translator for several companies, it was easier to translate the characters into pinyin first, then the pinyin to english. I had to do this for many people who wanted to know how to pronounce the words that I wrote. I still occasionally find clients who want things translated to Korean from Chinese characters. So the easiest way for me to do so is first, translate characters to pinyin, then english, then the Korean form of pinyin, then Korean characters. I have had to do this with many scripts, even the Cao system, which is chinese cursive, and both Zhuan systems, chinese seal/ pictograms in many cases.
在財富的害處,而是一件好事永遠不持續。我在和平中仅居住在新的風下。 Wei Jia Hong No harm in wealth, but a good thing doesn't last forever. I live only among peace under
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Originally posted by Buckskins Buckskins wrote:

Hola Penguino, Korean is much easier. It used to be near as complicated as Mandarin, but not now. A Korean Emperor felt sorry for the people and wrote out a new alphabet.


Absolutely. But Chinese is the language that called my attention. In fact, I was more interested in Chinese writing, than in the language itself. I am fascinated with scripts, and the Chinese script is very elegant. I still can get a grasp of what  say the logos of Chinese restaurants.



For instance, in the add above, the first character means the number 3, the second I have no idea Confused... But the third and fourth mean restaurant.

The third character has the radical of water and is an stylized drawing of a bottle, which means, sort of rice wine. The fourth is a pig under a roof, which means a place where you can eat meat. In other terms: it is a "meat and wine" place.

If I made same mistake, please correct me.

But the fascinating of Chinese script is that is not phonetic but ideographic. It is a way to codify ideas. I don't think is much practical, but it is still very beautiful.







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Hmm isn't Korean script syllabic, rather than alphabetic?

Makes it more like Brahmic scripts that way.
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I speak Hungarian (Native), English, German and Classical Latin.
I know like 100 words in Arabic, but can't read Arabic.
I can read Hebrew, but can't really understand it.
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Originally posted by pinguin pinguin wrote:

Originally posted by Buckskins Buckskins wrote:

Hola Penguino, Korean is much easier. It used to be near as complicated as Mandarin, but not now. A Korean Emperor felt sorry for the people and wrote out a new alphabet.


Absolutely. But Chinese is the language that called my attention. In fact, I was more interested in Chinese writing, than in the language itself. I am fascinated with scripts, and the Chinese script is very elegant. I still can get a grasp of what  say the logos of Chinese restaurants.



For instance, in the add above, the first character means the number 3, the second I have no idea Confused... But the third and fourth mean restaurant.

The third character has the radical of water and is an stylized drawing of a bottle, which means, sort of rice wine. The fourth is a pig under a roof, which means a place where you can eat meat. In other terms: it is a "meat and wine" place.

If I made same mistake, please correct me.

But the fascinating of Chinese script is that is not phonetic but ideographic. It is a way to codify ideas. I don't think is much practical, but it is still very beautiful.

 
The second character "he" is very important and has many meaning. It's is particular important for Chinese philosophy, BTW. The most common meaning is unite, bringing together, etc.
 
Third character means "wine", the fourth is actually "home" or "house." But the third and fourth together indeed mean restaurant, although the literal translation would be a "wine house."
 
What the 1st an 2nd character together mean is something like: "three coming together" or "three unite together," which I believe is a reference to Taoist concept of the union of three: Heavens, Earth and Man, which basically mean the union of harmonius cosmos or universe. But san he 三合 can also have other meanings depending on a context...
 
Kind of poetic name for a restaurant.
 
In terms of practicability, Chinese characters are actually very practical and handy for the Chinese itself and fit the language structure very well. The different story are Japanese and Korean that gramatically do not fit Chinese characters well and that was the main reason behind the invention of the native Japanese and Korean alphabets.


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Originally posted by Sarmat Sarmat wrote:

Originally posted by pinguin pinguin wrote:

Originally posted by Buckskins Buckskins wrote:

Hola Penguino, Korean is much easier. It used to be near as complicated as Mandarin, but not now. A Korean Emperor felt sorry for the people and wrote out a new alphabet.


Absolutely. But Chinese is the language that called my attention. In fact, I was more interested in Chinese writing, than in the language itself. I am fascinated with scripts, and the Chinese script is very elegant. I still can get a grasp of what  say the logos of Chinese restaurants.



For instance, in the add above, the first character means the number 3, the second I have no idea Confused... But the third and fourth mean restaurant.

The third character has the radical of water and is an stylized drawing of a bottle, which means, sort of rice wine. The fourth is a pig under a roof, which means a place where you can eat meat. In other terms: it is a "meat and wine" place.

If I made same mistake, please correct me.

But the fascinating of Chinese script is that is not phonetic but ideographic. It is a way to codify ideas. I don't think is much practical, but it is still very beautiful.

 
The second character "he" is very important and has many meaning. It's is particular important for Chinese philosophy, BTW. The most common meaning is unite, bringing together, etc.
 
Third character means "wine", the fourth is actually "home" or "house." But the third and fourth together indeed mean restaurant, although the literal translation would be a "wine house."
 
What the 1st an 2nd character together mean is something like: "three coming together" or "three unite together," which I believe is a reference to Taoist concept of the union of three: Heavens, Earth and Man, which basically mean the union of harmonius cosmos or universe. But san he 三合 can also have other meanings depending on a context...
 
Kind of poetic name for a restaurant.
 
In terms of practicability, Chinese characters are actually very practical and handy for the Chinese itself and fit the language structure very well. The different story are Japanese and Korean that gramatically do not fit Chinese characters well and that was the main reason behind the invention of the native Japanese and Korean alphabets.
That is true, Sarmat, and Pinguin, which of the 9 scripts do you mean??? The sign is in the Li shu meaning that it is of the clerical script. This script has only been used in recent times as decorations, sign postings, and occasionally the calligraphic value returns. The 9 scripts (as called in pinyin) are: Jiaguwen (Xia-Shang Periods), Jin Wen (Zhou- Warring States Periods), Da Zhuan shu(Qin period), Xin Zhuan shu (Qin Period), Li shu(Han- Wei Periods), Cao shu (Han-Current), Xing shu(Han- Current), and
Kai shu(Wei- Current), and what I call Xin Kai shu (1958- Current). 
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I can see why the Joint Services School didn't have a Chinese course for conscripts. Smile  It was only for regulars.
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Originally posted by Ko-Chosen Ko-Chosen wrote:

I speak Hungarian (Native), English, German and Classical Latin.
I know like 100 words in Arabic, but can't read Arabic.
I can read Hebrew, but can't really understand it.
 
The Arabic alphabet isn't that hard. Plus it gives you the opportunity to read Persian a good deal of which is understandable for me.
 
 
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Of course, all on a basic level. Some trouble at times with the structures of sentences.

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Ich spreche Deutsch

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Je parle le français

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Of course, all on a basic level. Some trouble at times with the structures of sentences.

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My favorite saying in latin: Illegitimate non carborundum.
 
Panther, could you translate? ( I think I mispelled carborundum)
在財富的害處,而是一件好事永遠不持續。我在和平中仅居住在新的風下。 Wei Jia Hong No harm in wealth, but a good thing doesn't last forever. I live only among peace under
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Originally posted by Sarmat Sarmat wrote:

Originally posted by Pinguin Pinguin wrote:




For instance, in the add above, the first character means the number 3, the second I have no idea Confused... But the third and fourth mean restaurant.

The third character has the radical of water and is an stylized drawing of a bottle, which means, sort of rice wine. The fourth is a pig under a roof, which means a place where you can eat meat. In other terms: it is a "meat and wine" place.

If I made same mistake, please correct me.

But the fascinating of Chinese script is that is not phonetic but ideographic. It is a way to codify ideas. I don't think is much practical, but it is still very beautiful.

 
The second character "he" is very important and has many meaning. It's is particular important for Chinese philosophy, BTW. The most common meaning is unite, bringing together, etc.
 
Third character means "wine", the fourth is actually "home" or "house." But the third and fourth together indeed mean restaurant, although the literal translation would be a "wine house."
 
What the 1st an 2nd character together mean is something like: "three coming together" or "three unite together," which I believe is a reference to Taoist concept of the union of three: Heavens, Earth and Man, which basically mean the union of harmonius cosmos or universe. But san he 三合 can also have other meanings depending on a context...
 
Kind of poetic name for a restaurant.
 


Indeed. Chinese script is surprising because those associations. And Taoism is a central part in chinese culture. Still, Chinese script is extremely difficult to learn in comparison to an alphabet (western languages, Hindu, Hebrew, Arab) or syllabus (Korean, Japanese), so I am afraid in the very long term will be replaced by pinyin, or something equivalent.





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Originally posted by Lao Tse Lao Tse wrote:

 
My favorite saying in latin: Illegitimate non carborundum.
 
Panther, could you translate? ( I think I mispelled carborundum)

It looks like Latin, it sounds like Latin, but is not in fact Latin. 'Illegitimus' does mean 'unlawful' and 'non' means 'no' but carborundum is not a Latin word at all, it's a trademark for an abrasive.

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