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White Nationalists and Solutreans

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    Posted: 17 Mar 2014 at 08:48
Jason Colavito is a well known myths debunker. He is famous for destroying the "Ancient Astronauts" claims one by one, in a 3 hours show you can find in Internet.

Here, he attacks the racist theory of the Solutreans, that was debunked this month when scientists decoded Clovis DNA.

In any case, it is interesting to read this article, that shows the deep roots that link racism and pseudoscience.

http://www.jasoncolavito.com/1/post/2014/01/white-nationalists-and-the-solutrean-hypothesis.html


Edited by pinguin - 17 Mar 2014 at 08:48
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The solutreen and other theories that contain a caucasoid or europide population/migration do not mention a caucasoid/europide master race as the blog states it. That is BS in high degree. A europide population is simply a population which shares the same features as the people in europe today. Because human populations remained in south asia for several tens of thousands of years it should not surprise, that these population shared  similar anthropological features. The name "europide" was invented by european scientists during the 19th century. At those days there may have been as well some racism as cause of the terminology. But the 19th century is gone. maybe all realize this one day. No scientists combine any of these theories today with racist claims. That some racists may do so is something completely different. A lot of the scientists who support theories like the solutreen/atlantic-theory, support as well the out-of Africa-theory. is that making these "white racists" afrocentrists and black racists then? No. I would really ask you to leave these stupid claims about a white racism away. Talk about science and not about your agenda.
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I only reproduced an essay of Colavito, which shows the links between the Solutrean hypothesis and White Nationalism. That's all.


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The actual Solutreans lived in ice age Europe - they were probably not "white" at all, as we understand it today. I just can't see how they can be relevant to people of European ancestry in the Americas, as the Solutreans weren't Indo-European descendants - or rather, they were probably not the direct ancestors of modern Europeans.

Obviously, the Solutrean hypothesis is somewhat dubious, but if people of the Americas came from the Solutrean people, then those Solutrean people were related to modern Amerindians and not Europeans.
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Indeed. The point is that among certain groups of Americans of European descent there is the obsession to grab the primacy of arriving to the Americas from the natives. And that's why there is a close relation between the Solutrean hypothesis and white nationalism in U.S.A.
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Pinguin:
I think you misunderstand what has been written.
 
I don't think that the Solutrean Theory is in any way related to White Nationalism in the USA, not in the scientific sense anyway. It's just another theory that the White Supremacists have jumped on the back up their racist claims.
 
The Solutrean Theory, as it's name suggests, is a theory on intercontinental migration. Nothing more.
 
That the theory has been largely ridiculed doesn't necessarily mean that it is untrue. Future scientific developments could in fact prove the theory, to one degree or another.
 
White nationalism is just another aspect of racism, claiming that the so-called "White Race" is superior to all others, and advocating for a White America. It's ugly.
 
Finally, you seem hung up on the fact that Europeans, wherever they may be located, are always plotting to take credit for what others, South American Indians for example, have achieved.
 
I don't believe this to be true. No rational and sane person would try to do that. To even attempt to do so would fly in the face of true science and historical knowledge.
 
No-one can take away from the Amerindians, particularly the tribes of South America, the remarkable buildings, and other infrastructure that they developed pre Columbus.
 
Be proud of your heritage and be willing to share it without fear that it could be stolen from you.
 
 
 


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