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    Posted: 19 Mar 2017 at 11:12
http://www.livescience.com/58298-earliest-depiction-of-guinea-worm-medieval-painting.htm


Italian researchers examining a medieval painting may have found the earliest visual depiction of dracunculiasis, a horrifying parasitic infection in which a worm up to 3 feet long creeps out of the skin.

Currently endemic to areas in Chad, Ethiopia, Mali and South Sudan, the disease is transmitted to people who drink water infested with water fleas that are in the Cyclops genus, and that contain larvae of the guinea worm (Dracunculus medinensis). One year after the person ingests the contaminated water, a spaghetti-like worm 2 to 3 feet (0.6 to 1 meter) long erupts from a blistered area of the person's skin — usually in the lower part of the leg, according to he World Health Organization.

To relieve the pain and burning feeling that the worm causes when it erupts, the victims seek out water, prompting the worm to discharge its larvae, which starts the whole cycle over again.


Very good reasons to be dark age crazy about water. Just wanted to share. Tongue



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Well thanks very much Vanuatu, I happen to enjoy a glass of cold water occasionally, but you've just turned me off.
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Why do you suppose they wanted the worm in the picture? Did they consider it an omen?
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Originally posted by Vanuatu Vanuatu wrote:

Why do you suppose they wanted the worm in the picture? Did they consider it an omen?

Heh, heh, heh. There's no worms in beer, or bourbon. 
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There's worms in tequila.  "Pickled" worms.

Worms are proof of Aristotle's spontaneous generation, like tadpoles appearing out of nowhere in a pool.Cheers
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You hot ticket! Are you just toying with a lesser, or is that a serious observation? Bc if it is serious it makes more sense than my life does.
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What?  There are worms in tequila, at least certain brands.  It is a dubious honor to get the worm.  They're dead of course.  I don't really know how they get them, maybe they have worm farms just for Tequila worms.  You can also buy tequila flavored lollypops, with a meal worm inside.

Harrison Ford gets the worm in Blade Runner.  You got to get to the bottom of the bottle, before you get the worm.

Aristotle believed in "spontaneous generation" for, well, not worms, but maggots on a piece of meat.  One could not see any eggs, and yet if you left it out long enough, maggots would form on it, in it.  Likewise one would have a pool, and tadpoles would appear, one could not see any eggs, and so the assumption was that they were spontaneously generating.

Maybe the picture was a public service announcement, "this can happen to you, even if you're a good looking courtier like this guy."  


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Fish fornicate in water.
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So who said, "fornication without conversation, is not fraternization."?

I know it is a little OT, but it is such a great quote.

[George S. Patton], who also said something like,
'it is not your duty to die for your country, 
 it is your duty to make some other bastard die for his.'


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Good one.   Clap
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We've all heard about movie stars bathing in milk.

What about bourbon, or scotch, or beer?


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Originally posted by franciscosan franciscosan wrote:

 

Aristotle believed in "spontaneous generation" for, well, not worms, but maggots on a piece of meat.  One could not see any eggs, and yet if you left it out long enough, maggots would form on it, in it.  Likewise one would have a pool, and tadpoles would appear, one could not see any eggs, and so the assumption was that they were spontaneously generating.

Maybe the picture was a public service announcement, "this can happen to you, even if you're a good looking courtier like this guy."  

I know about the tequila worm, I was asking if you were serious about Aristotle reference.

The worm would have it's obvious function as a record of the phenomenon but the spontaneous generation of life might have been even more important then the excruciating medical issue. 

Did Aristotle think of spontaneous life in worms and maggots as analogous to human reproduction? Did maggots and worms need even smaller parts coming together for spontaneous life to occur?
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Quote Likewise one would have a pool, and tadpoles would appear, one could not see any eggs, and so the assumption was that they were spontaneously generating.

When I was a little kid, oh so many years ago, we would go to the nearest pond and collect the frogs eggs, take them home and watch them hatch into tadpoles.

Never gave a thought to spontaneous generation.Smile
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Do you see the fly larvae hatching out of what was to all appearances nothing?  Maybe the tadpole eggs are in the mud waiting for a good rainfall, making poodles.  Point is, they to all appearances come out of nothing.  Hence Aristotle thought that spontaneous generation was going on.  Which I am sure the Middle Ages equated with ex nihilo (God creating the world out of nothing), or our modern era would equate with the big bang.  Of course, Aristotle didn't know (or care?) about the possibility of eggs in the mud or filth or on the microscopic level.  Of course, we all know that we are smarter than Aristotle, or are we?   

Just because my description does not meet your experience, toyomotor, doesn't mean it doesn't meet someone's experience.  Use your imagination a little and see how the ancient Greeks might have come up with the idea of spontaneous generation.  Or don't, if you are satisfied that we have a superiority to obscure philosophers, who first came up with, not only spontaneous generation, but also elemental theory, and the existence of atoms.  We are just borrowing from the imaginations of the long dead for our state of the art conceptions of science.
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It seems the guinea worm parasite is about to be the second after smallpox to be eliminated thanks to Jimmy Carter & WHO.
It's suggested that the reason for capturing the image of a traveler, (French Pilgrim Saint) with an affliction that was endemic to Italy was to warn the public. Traveling was dangerous one should be aware. It's an early Public Service announcement.  



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An imagination for maggots, I don't need.

Tadpoles are different, they're interesting for small people as they metamorphise into frogs.
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