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Originally posted by franciscosan franciscosan wrote:

Part of the significance of the democrats having their convention in Millwaukie is that Wisconsin has historically had a strong streak of socialism, they had a governor or two that was a socialist.  Also, the democrats have to do something about the loss of the mid-West in the last election.

Also, Wisconsin is a swing-vote state. Right from the get-go, most states are either clearly red (conservative Republican) or clearly blue (liberal Democratic). Thus it may pay off more to campaign in a swing-vote state, which can go either way. I think that Florida and Ohio are also swing-vote states.

In the electoral college, for most states, it's winner-take-all. Whoever gets the most popular votes gets all of that state's electoral votes. I n the election, it's almost a predestined fact which candidate will get the red states' electoral votes, and which candidate   will get the blue states' electoral votes. In the swing states, even if the popular vote is very close, it doesn't matter, all of the electoral votes will go to the winner. 

This also puts 3rd party candidates at a serious disadvantage in the electoral college. The electoral system  favors the 2 mainstream political parties. There's no need for the winner to have an absolute majority (51% or more) of votes. If one candidate gets 34% of the popular vote, another gets 33%, and a third also gets 33%, the first candidate will get 100% of that states' electoral votes.   


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Vanuatu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Mar 2019 at 14:10
Originally posted by franciscosan franciscosan wrote:

Considering how hostile President Obama was to the business community, I think that Scooby Do would have improved the economy if he had been elected.  Now President Trump probably did better than Scooby Do would.  But so would have your favorite person, Hillary Clinton.
Considering how President Obama cooked the statics for unemployment, I am not sure that when you say lowest unemployment since the 1950s, that that is a meaningful statistic under President Trump.  Obama did not count people who had been unemployed a long time, and had basically stopped looking, he did not count them as unemployed, thus cooking the statistics that had been developed by Herbert Hoover.

So, whose statistics are you and Trump using, Herbert Hoover's or President Obama's?
Now, now certainly your friends at CNN would have discredited the employment data if they COULD.
The fact that liberal media won't talk about the economy should be a BIG TIP, much like the elephant's circumcision. 
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This also puts 3rd party candidates at a serious disadvantage in the electoral college. The electoral system  favors the 2 mainstream political parties. There's no need for the winner to have an absolute majority (51% or more) of votes. If one candidate gets 34% of the popular vote, another gets 33%, and a third also gets 33%, the first candidate will get 100% of that states' electoral votes.   
Hi Windemere

What are your thoughts on the front runners DNC who have announced their candidacy?

Can you see Gillibrand or Booker or Harris winning a Primary?

Jill Stein was a much better candidate than any of these democrats, says I. Yet as you suggest quality does not matter where the mainstream parties or media is concerned.
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Colorado liberal governor has pushed forth a bill saying that Colorado's electoral college delegates will be given to those who win the [national] popular majority, even if the state goes the other way.

Jared Polis is a gay Boulderite (people's republic of Boulder), who is rich and buys his elections, his first election was for school board and he spent a million on the campaign.  Liberals only mind the buying of campaigns if they are not the one's doing it.

Co Governor Hickenlooper is a nice guy (moderate), but I can't see him making it on the national stage, Senator Bennett is a bit of a carpet bagger.  Someone who came to Colorado to make it politically, because he couldn't do it where he came from.


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