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Originally posted by franciscosan franciscosan wrote:

Actually there is an effort to abolish the electoral college, by the left of course.  They have passed bills in various states, which will only go into effect if they get the required number of states to amend the constitution.  One of the many bad ideas of the left.  They just can't stand controlling only the cities but won't rest until nobody else can get any rest either.

There is a petition in Northern California and Oregon was to have state lines redrawn so they can become part of a greater Idaho plan. Most of these people are farmers, conservatives who are tired of the watching civilization collapse into homelessness and squalor. 
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lgbtq is about 5 % of the population but they wield a lot more power than their size would imply.  They used to say 10 %, but that way they could imply their numbers were more underground.  "Oppressed."
I also think that the moniker was glbtq, but gay lost political clout to the lesbians, who could claim to be "more" oppressed than the gays.  The lgbtq alliance is big in the university, and can get pretty vicious against anybody who does not agree with them.  Particularly conservatives, but also anyone who, unawares' violates their dogma.  But, I do think of them as the tail that wags the dog for the democrat party.  (It is the Democrat party, I don't think that they're democratic anymore.), there are reason why they are so influential, they tend to be quite more educated and richer than average.  They also generally don't have children, so they have more disposable income, they are also very influential in the news media and Hollywood.  Maybe some day they will wake up and realize that they are not as oppressed as they think.  I think gay men like Dave Rubin are starting to realize that things aren't perfect, but are pretty good.

It was unfortunate that in the United States, AIDS was not originally treated as a medical condition and gay politics blocked using infectious disease measures such as quarantine and partner notification.  Laws were passed so that it was illegal to inform people of other people's AIDS status.  So a nurse would get poked by a used needle, and could not find out whether the patient it had been used on, was HIV positive.  If gay men were not marginalized before that, they were then, by activists claiming to represent them by not closing down bathhouses, etc.  I think it is still illegal to inform others of people's HIV status.  The change came with George W. Bush funding to get cheap retrovirals into Africa.  _He_ treated AIDS over there as a medical problem, and that allowed for a change of attitudes and a ratcheting down the fear level in the US.

The reason why there was such an emphasis on a cure for AIDS in the '80s was that gay activists did not want to stop their promiscuous lifestyles that they had developed so much in the '70s.  It is not that things couldn't be done, it is just that they thought that they could avoid doing infectious disease measures.  Cuba ran into the problem fairly early because soldiers were coming back from Angola (and going on leave to Haiti).  Cuba quarantined for AIDS, it wasn't a punishment, in fact the people most effected were soldiers and therefore heroes of the State.  AIDS patients were allowed to live out the rest of their lives in government run homes, where they were taken care of as much as they could be.  We should note that AIDS still doesn't have a cure, but it does have treatments.  There is a book by an AIDS activist (a sane one), called "And the Band Played On"  In other words, the ship was sinking, the Titanic was going down, and the band played on (as if things were normal).  Several 'conservatives' talk about him and his book, when they wrote about the subject. (like Sowell and Horowitz).
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Joe Biden won the democrat primary for South Carolina, at something like 48%, Biden is probably the most sane candidate the democrats have right now, although even he sometimes feels like he is supposed to show that he is woke.  For awhile he does not always seem like he is firing on all cylinders.  A friend who was an international relations major said back during the first Obama term that Biden had weighed in on every foreign policy issue for the last 30 years, and been wrong each time.  Other than that, he seems like a nice guy, in the pocket of the credit card companies.  Not corrupt like Trump, but probably corrupt in a whole other way.  But, let's face it being corrupt means you have something at stake in the system, and are not interested in the utopian socialist reform wanting to throw out the baby in the bath.  I prefer piecemeal reform instead of utopian reform, change one thing at a time, and see how that works.  By tinkering, you will never have it absolutely perfect, but you will also not have it as perfect cr-p.  The thing about socialists is that when they get into power, they never say, whoops! I broke it, let us have someone else have a try.  They dig, double their effort, double their propaganda.
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Biden has the name recognition and the endorsement of Rep Jim Clyburn. He won't be endorsed everywhere but it should be enough to legitimately get more delegates than Bernie Sanders.

Most people see socialism as a non starter, even children recognize the inherent unfairness of taking what others earn, unless its given freely in charity or as part of the tax burden in support of a stable lower class. Clean streets and public safety are the actual responsibilities of government.

The World Health Organization has put forward a list of "forbidden" words re the Covid19 virus. WHO has determined that the word 'transmit' implies intent and therefore cannot be used in describing the virus.

Who is running the WHO? Is it the government's business to tell people how to describe Covid19?
This attempt at control after a bit of a failure (CDC) is typical government over-correction exactly as you mentioned in relation to socialism. 

There cannot be enough Greta Thunebergs yet. Then once there are it'll be "...up against the wall!"
 
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Biden is a puppet. His communications staff are young black women who don't know his entire record and can't find a n intelligent defense for what they do know. The party, including Bernie are prepping for Bernie's base to swing over to Biden. It won't happen.
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I see that Tulsi Gabbard is still out there, getting .6% of the vote or so.  She absolutely has no chance, but there is a small segment of the population that likes her, and she is young.  Maybe she is banking on being memorable, and running again sometime in the future.  The DNC kinda had it out for her and Yang. They corruptly play favorites.

I really don't understand this, Bernie "maybe I am a socialist." "maybe I am not."  "I know, I am a democratic socialist, or social democrat, yeh, that's the ticket!"

A lot of socialists look at Russia, China, Cuba, Venezuela, Cambodia, Vietnam, Eastern Europe, and say "if I did it, I would do it right!"  I wouldn't make the same mistakes that others made. (rather, he would make different mistakes (and the same ones too))
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Originally posted by franciscosan franciscosan wrote:

I see that Tulsi Gabbard is still out there, getting .6% of the vote or so.  She absolutely has no chance, but there is a small segment of the population that likes her, and she is young.  Maybe she is banking on being memorable, and running again sometime in the future.  The DNC kinda had it out for her and Yang. They corruptly play favorites.
There are some talented people who are young and can fight another day. Definitely Gabbard, Yang, Buttegigeg. 

Quote I really don't understand this, Bernie "maybe I am a socialist." "maybe I am not."  "I know, I am a democratic socialist, or social democrat, yeh, that's the ticket!"

A lot of socialists look at Russia, China, Cuba, Venezuela, Cambodia, Vietnam, Eastern Europe, and say "if I did it, I would do it right!"  I wouldn't make the same mistakes that others made. (rather, he would make different mistakes (and the same ones too))
He's ready to bail, get a yacht this time Bernie! Maybe Bernie never planned on winning, he just appeals to a base selfishness in some of us then blackmails the DNC to drop out.
Donna Brazille, the Super delegate told Rona Barret to "Go to hell!" when Rona said that the DNC was ready to broker Biden to keep Bernie away from the ticket. Donna's book detailed the last time the DNC chucked Bernie.
Oh man I cannot stop laughing today, this is going to be unreal. Vice president matters more than ever. 
What a country, democrats are ready to let Biden run with all his cognitive difficulties. Joe thought his wife was his sister today when he introduced them. The DNC knows Trump will win so they are going to ride it out and come out swinging next time. 

Who will Biden choose as a running mate?
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Well, Biden is gaining support in the Dixie states, and especially from Afro-Americans. He's also gained some support in New England, and narrowly won in Massachusetts, where Sanders and Warren had been favoured. But I think that most of his support here derives from the "anyone but Trump" mentality, which has settled upon Biden as the candidate with the best chance of defeating Trump, and attracted the voters for whom this is the most important issue. This contrasts with Sanders, whose voters are probably most concerned with issues such as 'Medicare for All' and a $15/hr. minimum-wage.
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Now if you call Biden the "Establishment Candidate" you will be called a racist. I guess that's bc according to Joe -"poor kids are just as talented as white kids." and he'll take "truth over facts." Big smile

I don't doubt that most democrat voters just want Trump gone, Biden is evidence of their urgency. 
In 2019 they democrats were keeping their distance.


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The democrats have a mantra of "believe the victim, unless the accused is a democrat presidential candidate."  It would be nice if they got back to innocent until proven guilty, or at least, 'let everybody decide for themselves if there is fire there or just smoke.'  

I am not sure how much a victory for Biden will be a victory for the radicals of the democrat party.  The opposite might be true (a defeat for Biden=radicals whining for the next four years, that if only Sanders was given a chance, he would have introduced a Paradisical state (or is it Parasitical?).
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Originally posted by franciscosan franciscosan wrote:

The democrats have a mantra of "believe the victim, unless the accused is a democrat presidential candidate."  It would be nice if they got back to innocent until proven guilty, or at least, 'let everybody decide for themselves if there is fire there or just smoke.'  

I am not sure how much a victory for Biden will be a victory for the radicals of the democrat party.  The opposite might be true (a defeat for Biden=radicals whining for the next four years, that if only Sanders was given a chance, he would have introduced a Paradisical state (or is it Parasitical?).
The second one.
Does the DNC expect Biden to win the electoral college? He has the democrat vote so blue states might go his way, not purple states. Accusations of Tara Reid forced honest democrats to admit that even though they believe her they will still vote Biden. Again it will be regional and limited support. 

The DNC has an agenda that uses climate change and immigration to be the great equalizer, they want Venezuela style Paradiscal/Parastical.
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There is some question in the courts these days of whether the electoral college can do otherwise than just rubber stamp the popular vote in a state.  I think that electoral college candidate should be able to do whatever they want, and whether it is convenient for the parties be damned.  But of course, the parties don't believe in that.  The democrats typically blame third party candidates when they loose, candidates that get, like, 1% of the vote but on a even election, make a difference.  The democrats don't blame that they had a loosing message.
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Yes, it's the message, the messenger and all the chains they forged in life Mr Scrooge.

Obama's luke warm support of Biden means very little. The media can try to hide the former administration's dirty dealings but once it's sort of in the air it will hang on the democrats like moss. 
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