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I'll just simply sit back and enjoy the local wines here, produced on the left bank of the Moselle (the dry side). Sorry but I think you'll still find it hard to get anywhere else, though we did find it once at the Ritz Carlton in Atlanta.
 
If you do, go for the Riesling or the Pinot Gris. Avoid the Elbling unless you like German Moselles, which I suppose you may do, there being no accounting for taste.
 
(And yes we've drunk some rather good Chilean wines around here as a table red - local wines being mostly white.) 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote drgonzaga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jan 2011 at 23:09
And here I thought gcle would doff his Bowler Hat to Rumpole and his lauding of the distinctions between Chateau Thames Embankment and Chateau Fleet Street or the grand cellar to be found at Pommeroy's. But alas, he's gone Frog on us Wink!


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Originally posted by Reginmund Reginmund wrote:

 
Gato Negro, one of my least favourite wines ever.


Do you preffer "Concha y Toro"?
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Women in Ireland seem to have an obsession with Chilean Cabernet Sauvignon and Chilean Sauvignon Blanc (I know, not even a single grape variety), that's all I'm ever asked for. We have a French, and Australian, and a Spanish on offer by the glass, but most of the local wine 'experts' contort their face at the very suggestion of them. Maybe Chilean wine just tastes better, but I'd wager it's more of a notion than anything else.
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Dolph, Nah, it's probably just the name O'Higgins. The Paddies are a clannish lot. Offer them a choice in Cognac's and I'd bet they choose the Hennessey.


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Women in Ireland seem to have an obsession with Chilean Cabernet Sauvignon and Chilean Sauvignon Blanc (I know, not even a single grape variety), that's all I'm ever asked for. We have a French, and Australian, and a Spanish on offer by the glass, but most of the local wine 'experts' contort their face at the very suggestion of them. Maybe Chilean wine just tastes better, but I'd wager it's more of a notion than anything else.


Don't believe in 'experts'... Those snobish guys follow fashions.
We have been drinking our excellent Cabernet Sauvignon since the 19th century. These wines have been produced in large scale in the country though they are cheap, but that doesn't mean they are bad wines.
The new strategy of wine producers is to increase the prices of wines to capture more refinated drinkers. So, drink Chilean wines while they are still cheap. In the future you will have to pay many times more for the same stuff.
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Originally posted by lirelou lirelou wrote:

Dolph, Nah, it's probably just the name O'Higgins. The Paddies are a clannish lot. Offer them a choice in Cognac's and I'd bet they choose the Hennessey.

I actually largely agree, with one exception. Most people prefer Gordon's Gin (A British brand) to Cork Dry Gin. By all accounts just a better gin. Plus, Irish Whiskeys are pretty tasty, so you can't blame us for that Smile
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Don't believe in 'experts'... Those snobish guys follow fashions.
We have been drinking our excellent Cabernet Sauvignon since the 19th century. These wines have been produced in large scale in the country though they are cheap, but that doesn't mean they are bad wines.
The new strategy of wine producers is to increase the prices of wines to capture more refinated drinkers. So, drink Chilean wines while they are still cheap. In the future you will have to pay many times more for the same stuff.

Well, if the Chilean producers have any sense, they won't start making their wines more expensive any time soon, because those fashions you rightly mention change very easily. French wine got a reputation for being more expensive and sales went down very quickly. As well, if the drinker chooses the wine for its price and not its taste, then the market you are actually capturing IS the snobs, not the refined tipplers.


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Anyways, Chilean wine has a natural quality. There will always be a market for it.
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Originally posted by Dolphin Dolphin wrote:

As well, if the drinker chooses the wine for its price and not its taste, then the market you are actually capturing IS the snobs, not the refined tipplers.


For some reason the wine market has that stupidity...I recently found a 2.7 euro/liter wine from a winery that has the level of some 100euro bottled ones. Mainstream wines below 100 euros have simply no chance to this one.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gcle2003 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 11:14
It's called 'chacum à son goût'.
 
Something that always puzzled me in the US (at least in the south) was that US wines on average were more expensive than French ones. Not by a great deal but in Atlanta I was paying $8.50 for a Mouton Rothschild and at least $12 for something the same quality from California.
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I have read that the word "wine" is a wanderworter (a word that gets borrowed all over the place) that originated with a word from an early South-Caucasian language (perhaps the ancestor of Georgian). So all things seem to be pointing to that wine-making originated in the Caucasus.
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I LOVE wine! *hiccup hiccup*! My favorite is Chatea Le Vin Matin Cru, but I also like this brand:
 
I also like Sake, Masumi is my favorite brand:
 
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